It is as close to a fact as you are going to get. As a matter of fact, based on the TTPs I’ve seen and the data of the hacking… it’s almost a 100% guarantee that I was Russia. They really were not even trying to hidE that fact.
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Based on what evidence?
It means that the charge changes daily, and the all encompassing “Abuse of Power!!!” covers their asses for wasting taxpayer time and money conducting the sham of an impeachment that Nancy told them was a waste of time. It’s pretty transparent.
This is what the founders feared out of the legislative branch, impeachment over politics. It just wasn’t his turn. It was her’s.
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Why is that important?
What if Obama withheld aid to Israel in order to get Israel to investigate Trump in 2016?
What if Obama withheld aid to Israel in order to get Israel to investigate Romney in 2012?
To address your VP requirement…
What if VP Biden threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine in order to get Ukraine to investigate Trump and Trump Jr?
What about Sec of State Hillary? What if she did the same thing to Trump using the state department?
Change the channel?
These are appeals to emotion.
The facts are clear. Trump will be impeached. He deserves it for his obvious abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. He deserves it for many other abuses and crimes as well, but this will suffice. But fear not, he won’t be removed from office. And he will likely be re-elected.
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Mulvaney disagrees
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“We have no information that indicates that Ukraine interfered with the 2016 presidential election"
The FBI director disagrees with you.
You possess more information than the FBI director?
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Obstructed now means “debunked” in the minds of Always Trumpers.
It was shown how they were debunked…over and over.
Not my fault you either missed it every time it was brought up or else don’t want to believe it.
Have Rudy and John Solomon come testify before Congress with their evidence…not to friendly GOP Congressmen and a friendly AG in a closed door session…but to all of Congress.
Have them open up their evidence to public scrutiny as opposed to shaking it in their fists or creating a “documentary” on OANN complete with ridiculous things like “a caravan of black Mercedes trailing us at the Kyiv Airport” and stupid crap like that.
Bring Viktor Shokin and all the corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs that have been fueling Rudy’s Biden Corruption Fantasy into a public hearing as opposed to CEC fantasies…expose the connections between Dmitro Firtash, Victoria Toensing, Joe DiGenova, and John Solomon…exposes to the public what all these other oligarchs Rudy has interviewed were up to…and I’ll take notice.
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Easy…
We have the transcript.
We have vindman.
We have Mulvaney
We have cooper questioning where the aid is.
35 million is still being held up.
There was no phone call between sondland and trump where he said no quid. That we know of.
We have everyone but an orange haired monkey and his base believing that Ukraine didnt meddle.
But we have sondland saying everyone was in the loop.
The people who also know are being protected by executive privilege so that gives you cover to play this…smoking gun bs argument. Same deal with impeachment because it stalls in the Senate.
Etc etc…all stuff we have about a dozen or so threads covering that you have even been in. You dont want to believe it because whatever reasons you personally have. That’s your call.
You know this was wrong. I know this was wrong, but you guys dont want to come out and say you dont care because you are in power.
But you’ll say the dems have wanted to remove trump since day one. The gop and the base wanted to impeach obama from day one. It’s even on the old board. You all claimed obama was a dictatorship like you could see the future and what we have now.
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CorwdStrike has been debunked hundreds of times in numerous threads on these boards- that’s why it’s Groundhog Day. You guys simply flit from thread to thread and say the same thing over and over and pretend you never heard anything different.
Same with John Solomon’s corrupt Ukrainian oligarchy fueled Biden conspiracy nonsense…all the shady connections have been pointed out over and over…along with the fact that although Rudy and Solomon keep saying these guys want to testify…all they do is keep who these people are and their connections a secret…and instead only speak in friendly venues or friendly networks.
If they really think they have something, put it out in a truly public forum where the stories can be completely investigated.
Tell everyone who these oligarchs really are and their history and back stories.
Then I’ll take notice.
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The fun now officially commences.
When are we going to have the impeachment vote.
Like tomorrow…
Allan
Looks like the judiciary committee will vote on this on thursday and the House will formally vote next week. Pretty historic.
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Only the 4th time in the history of the United States that something like this has happened. I’ve now managed to see it twice.
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It’s not like it matters. The Senate is not going to remove the president. Donald Trump is going to be exonerated of all his crimes. Democrats are going to look petty for going forward with a TOTALLY partisan impeachment nonsense. The public knows the TRUTH. Actions like this prove to me why Democrats should NEVER be allowed political power ever again.
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Weak. No bribery, no extortion
Will there be a senate trial with witnesses.
That’s how weak it is.
Impeachment of a president is never weak.
Allan
There were many other Articles that could have been drafted. But unfortunately, we live in a world where there is a multi-billion dollar propaganda arm of one party that has decided profiting off of the gullible, keeping people uninformed and detached from reality, is more important than having an well-educated populace.
The overwhelming evidence of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress are far and away the most easily digestible arguments for impeachment that can be made. And because Trump decided to prevent Giuliani, Pompeo, Mulvaney, Bolton, and others from testifying (which is weird if they can all exonerate him) then there is no choice but to go forward now with what is well documented and known.
Donald Trump will be impeached. And deservedly so. He abused the powers granted to him by the people. Sure, he does not have to “President like we want” but he DOES have to adhere to the rule of law and the Constitution he swore an oath to uphold. And he made the decision not to do so. He brought this on himself.
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