New Pew poll: Most Americans have unfavorable view of Israel

Only by you and your ilk.

No Allan, it’s you who is saying the other thing.

Hamas propaganda doesn’t count.

fake hospitals, full of fake sick children.

Allan

Hamas control centers disguised as hospitals. I don’t doubt there was a medical staff on sight and that there were patients. But that wasn’t the primary purpose.

If you put soldiers with weapons in a hospital and they aren’t wounded guess what? You lose your Geneva protections.

I’m sure that’s of great comfort to the patients wounded and killed.

Which goes to the point of the thread: this smug callousness is what is turning people against Israel.

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When you are in a war you got to do some things that are pretty callous to win.

Unless you think we fought WWII all wrong or something? Israel has been much more kind to Gazan civilians than we ever were to German or Japanese civilians. We burned 100,000 Japanese civilians alive in March of 1945. What room do we have to criticize?

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WWII is irrelevant.

People today are upset about what is happening, and no amount of clever logic and smug sophistry will elide that.

Once it becomes a Hamas command post, it ceases to be a hospital per the Genieva Convention. The kids should have been evacuated when the IDF warned them. But then as we noted, dead babies make the best martyrs.

No … They were real hospitals, before Hamas used them as military command posts and defensive fire points.

What should Israel have done?

What should Hamas have done?

It’s not at all irrelevant. The same rules applied in WWII that apply in Gaza. Use of hospitals for military purposes other than care of patients is against the rules. Conducting military operations behind the cover of civilians is against the rules. And attacking the enemy engaged in those illegal practices is not against the rules.

Well, if they don’t care about American public opinion (the point of the thread) nothing different

No, not at all relevant. To most, if not all of these respondents, WWII is ancient history.

And in any event, they aren’t comparing the two wars, they are watching Israeli conduct, and they disapprove.

It’s not about WWII, it’s about the rules of “civilized” war.

It is noteworthy however, that people who have never experienced war who are the loudest critics.

WWII will never be irreverent. Hell this entire ■■■■ show between Israel and the Palestinians can be dated back to World War I.

They’re respondents in a poll, not protestors an a campus. Not only is that not noisy, it’s anonymous.

These people have a severe lack of imagination then.

Sure. And these people don’t give a rip about any of that.

Nor do they need to in order to disapprove of Israel’s conduct

How much imagination is required to disapprove of killing civilians?