Meanwhile Gov. Kay Ivey of Alabama signed

The dyswoke believe people are too weak to handle reality, and it is compassion to help them pretend a comforting fantasy. That’s actually dyscompassionate.

What was the defining objective characteristic of themselves that caused them to “know” whether they were a boy or a girl? Hell…your SCOTUS person can’t even define it. But a 2 year old can?

Your© arguments become more ridiculous every day

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You guys are the gift that keeps on giving.

You have “your own” morals, I’ll give you that much.

Gender identity disorder is a “fantasy.” Just like PTSD, depression and anxiety. Got it.

I didn’t day that. I have already affirmed several times that gender dysphoria is a real disorder. We are disagreeing over the explanation for it’s genesis and its solution. I am saying that the dyswoke analysis and answer/therapy/treatment are fantasies.

But mine doesn’t prey on kids.

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Again, we’re going to have to agree to disagree on that as well.

Of course you have to disagree…I don’t believe in perverting small children.

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And I don’t believe in contributing to the suicide rate of trans kids by calling them “perverted” and refusing to acknowledge their reality.

I’ve seen what “morals” like yours can do. You don’t have the high road here, either.

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What is a psychiatrist?

That’s right- we need to impose YOUR morals on them.

Because they’re “better”.

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Hmm…sounds like the government that would be “taking sides” here…by determining that certain morals be “not discussed”.

I also always like to note the implicit belief that kids can be “programmed” if they are “exposed to the wrong ideas” and “indoctrinated” with them.

Yet gay kids have been taught about and discussed straight people for decade after decade now…and it doesn’t turn these kids “straight”.

Yet the mere mention of LGBTQ to a straight child will somehow corrupt that child.

So many unspoken assumptions…so little time.

So tell the class what traumatic experience causes gender identity disorder. Those suffering from PTSD experienced a real life situation that caused it, the fact that you are trying to equate the two is quite sad. Depression is often from a chemical imbalance which is treatable without taking meds to stop a natural process (puberty) and through therapy. So tell us, which disorder is where one sometimes wishes to be change their physical body through drugs or surgery to match their reality, and which ones address reality and work on dealing with what happened to them through therapy.

The “equating” between gender dysphoria and PTSD, depression, anxiety, and so on is fairly simple - none of them can be “objectively proven” to exist.

They are “disorders” or perception and processing - internal to themselves.

You don’t accept that gender dysphoria is real - yet you accept PTSD and depression as real. That’s the only relevant “difference” here.

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Well it’s headed to the courts.

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You really could not be more wrong, in the main. While what you suggest could happen, I have been involved in several cases where the gender issue was raised by the child rebelling at being referred to/made to behave under stereotypical gender roles and proclaimed themselves to be other than the gender assigned at birth. This can happen as young as 3-5 years old. It is much easier to transition into the “preferred” gender when peers have never known the child as anything other than of that gender. The problems arise when adults (and particularly school personnel) refuse to cooperate with the parents in allowing the child’s expression of gender. Of course, parents who try to enforce their own gender preference on the child cause great harm as well. At that young age, it will either continue to be the child’s preference, or the child will decide they were mistaken. If that has not happened one way or the other by the time that puberty starts or if the child affirms their preference, it will be necessary to prevent the irreversible effects of puberty with the reversible treatment by blocking pubertal hormones until it is deemed medically adviseable to stop. This may last for life or unless other medical intervention remove the necessity. It is actually a small percentage of trans-adults (5-13% of trans-men and 1-11% of transwomen) who elect gender affirming (ie. bottom) surgery. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626314/#:~:text=Transgender%20women%20report%20bottom%20surgery,in%20the%20future%20(7).

Please quote where I said it didn’t exist.

And no, PTSD is caused by a traumatic event, depression is generally a chemical imbalance, gender identity disorder is not identifying with the sex one is born as. Now, which of these wants Joe blow to call them something other than how they were born. Which one of these do some people take either drugs to stop a natural process (puberty) or undergo surgery to add or remove body parts to fit THEIR identity?

So no, they are not similar

Baloney.

Just ask a trans person.

They’re really the only ones with any actual first-hand experience of how it all works, after all.

I say bullcrap. Children say all sorts of things at 3-5 years of age. At around 5 my younger sister decided she was not a girl but a horse. Within a few months she had moved on to other things.