Mariupol is a shaping up as a showdown between Azov and Putin

Azov battalion. Estimated size 900.

This is supposed to represent Ukraine?

This is why thousands are dead already, many more than in that battalion?

Having different opinions is understandable. Wallowing in nonsense from Russian militarists is pushing it.

As far as Ukraine, they are going to get a lot more weaponry from the West. Just like Russia flooded Vietnam with weapons. Enjoy.

And Biden is not a neo-Nazi.

Allan

You are rationalizing again.

It’s sad. Truly.

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MSNBC?

Their power within Ukraine far exceeds their numbers, and their numbers may be greater than reported. Here is a recent report from German state media:

The city of Mariupol, which has a population of 500,000, is primarily being defended by the Azov Battalion.

I suspect that Azov and allied groups are among “CIA -trained Ukrainian paramilitaries”.

Better the problem of some small sect that may exist than the invading army that does exist. If they are super nationalist, then the front lines are the right place for them.
If we decide super nationalists exist in Russia, are we justified in invading them?

Yes, you need to look at the track record for news sources.

Consider the hoaxes and misinformation that have come from the US corporate media:

Russia collusion
Jussie Smollett
Kyle Rittenhouse
Covington kids
Biden-lap-is-Russian-disinformation hoax

Can you provide a similar list for RT?

What did they say in ‘Nam, we have to burn the village to save it?

Would we be complacent if Russia were funding and arming similar groups on our border?

According to the Biden Administration, white supremacist extremists like the Azov battalion and allied groups are the biggest terrorist threat.

Let’s look at what we put up with from Russia. Their feeding weapons to those we were fighting in Vietnam…yes.
Feeding weapons to Cuba 90 miles from our shore…yes.
Feeding nuclear weapons on missiles 90 miles from our shore…no.

The precedence of what is acceptable has been created.

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If there are white nationalists that are a terror threat in the US, does that mean Russia can legitimately invade us?

Yes, the Soviet Union took a lot of military actions against the US. That is why era between 1946 and the fall of Communism was called the Cold War.

The US had 20 years of relatively good relations with Russian from the early 1990s until the US-backed revolution in Ukraine in 2014.

It looks like there a lot of powerful interests in Washington who want to create another Cold War.

Yeah. It’s backing the government in Ukraine that’s the problem. Not Russia invading a foreign country they pledged not to invade.

No, of course not.

On the other hand, a Russian-backed coup in Mexico that established a government hostile to the US would be a serious threat.

When you say yes but or no but…you have invalidated everything that comes before the word but.

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It is simply a question of geography.

White nationalist extremists in Ukraine are not threat to the US, but they are a threat to Russia.

White nationalist extremists in the US not a threat to Russia, but they are a threat to the US.

Distance matters.

I wonder what happens when we learn about all of the white nationalist extremists inside of Russia?

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Aren’t they the flies the True Russian Patriots spit out of their mouths?

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Oh you mean the Russian white nationalist militias that operate with quiet government sanction? Yeah.

The best thing about Russian white supremacists is that the people they call “blacks” are literally Caucasians who live in the Caucasus Mountains.

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It’s not like David Duke once said that Russia is the key to the White man’s survival or nothing.

Maybe when we learn about Alexander Dugin…

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