Let's hope this trend continues

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@toreyj01

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@toreyj01

This is dumb. I don’t have and will never have children. But I pay property taxes and a lot of that goes to funding the schools in my district. Let’s say it costs 8-9k per student per year. A family of 4 can move into my district, rent an apartment and pay zero property taxes. But they will take out 16-18k a year in benefits by living here.

Now that family wants to say “I don’t like these schools and want to send my kids to schools that are private and outside the district!” and expect MY TAXES to pay for it? All the while taking money and quality from the school my taxes are supposed to support?

Cram it up your backside. If you don’t like my schools, more your ass to another district to leach off or spend your own damned money and get what you like.

Renters pay property tax, just by proxy.

Fair and fine, but even then they are taking out way more than they are putting in. I don’t have a problem with that, folks with kids are takers and I am a giver. You need to educate kids. But it takes a ton of hubris to see these same folks bitching about the schools I am forced to fund and want to just “get a check” to find private schooling.

It ain’t your money. You don’t get to spend it. Like it or lump it, Breeder.

Oh yeah, parents are such takers, which is why I spent over a million dollars to raise my two daughters, including sending one to med school, to provide this country with a new generation of well educated citizens. By the way, she saved an American citizens life before lunch today.

[DMK]

@toreyj01

pay zero property taxes

Sure, because the landlord is too stupid to pass that along in the price of the rental

@toreyj01

or spend your own damned money and get what you like.

If a public school allots 9K per student, why do you care where they send their child?

[PurpnGold]

@DMK

@toreyj01

pay zero property taxes

Sure, because the landlord is too stupid to pass that along in the price of the rental

In an apartment complex tenants are paying a tiny tiny fraction of property taxes. In no way equal to the amount of money they would receive in a voucher program.

If you are renting a home, then I agree the tenant is likely cover property taxes too. But depending on the amount, tenant may still receive more dollars from a voucher than they put into the system.

[DMK]

@PurpnGold

In an apartment complex tenants are paying a tiny tiny fraction of property taxes. In no way equal to the amount of money they would receive in a voucher program.

If you are renting a home, then I agree the tenant is likely cover property taxes too. But depending on the amount, tenant may still receive more dollars from a voucher than they put into the system.

It doesn’t matter. That is the current cost per student that the public schools receive.

Since when does a lib care about other people’s money? Or is only money if people are given choice on what to do with it leaving government out of the picture?

[zantax]

@PurpnGold

@DMK

@toreyj01

pay zero property taxes

Sure, because the landlord is too stupid to pass that along in the price of the rental

In an apartment complex tenants are paying a tiny tiny fraction of property taxes. In no way equal to the amount of money they would receive in a voucher program.

If you are renting a home, then I agree the tenant is likely cover property taxes too. But depending on the amount, tenant may still receive more dollars from a voucher than they put into the system.

No, renters aren’t paying a tiny fraction of property taxes, all property taxes for the building they live in are passed down in the form of rent. Deriding their contribution is no different then complaining someone living in a house valued at 100k pays much less then someone living in a house valued at a million. But hey, if you want to do away with progressive taxes and charge everyone the same, I am on board.

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@PurpnGold

@zantax

@PurpnGold

@zantax

@PurpnGold

@zantax

@NJBob

There’s that supply and demand thing too.

Demand increased quite a bit recently, private school down the road from me has doubled in size over the last two years, no big price increase.

Then the student to teacher ratio likely increased. But also, no vouchers to drive up the price.

I don’t see how that is a foregone conclusion. New students bring in new revenue to hire more teachers.

Schools have finite space.

So you build more space, not going to increase cost per student unless you outright owned your first building, rent or building payments likely already existed for previous students.

Building more space isn’t free… a school may be able to avoid a price increase to cover the costs of more space and more teachers… but they don’t need to. Private schools are not required to accommodate in that way like public schools.

They will just reject you or charge you more. Vouchers will only exacerbate that. If the government forced price caps on private schools equal to the voucher amount AND they had to admit anyone, it wouldn’t be an issue.

Has the government forced universities to cap their increases?

[WuWei]

Then don’t use it.

[WuWei]

It’s not racist. You’re indoctrinated

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@PurpnGold

@DMK

@toreyj01

pay zero property taxes

Sure, because the landlord is too stupid to pass that along in the price of the rental

In an apartment complex tenants are paying a tiny tiny fraction of property taxes. In no way equal to the amount of money they would receive in a voucher program.

If you are renting a home, then I agree the tenant is likely cover property taxes too. But depending on the amount, tenant may still receive more dollars from a voucher than they put into the system.

And yet Libs provide free healthcare and free education to illegals by the millions who contribute even less than the people they are whining about in this thread. Not to mention Joey B is giving them a free vacation to the destination of their choice now. Non tax payers get thousands of dollars back at tax time due to child credits and suddenly you are concerned about people receiving more than they pay?

That’s comical dude…

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

You can’t just sprout schools overnight when demand increases.

Why not?

[PurpnGold]

@DMK

@PurpnGold

In an apartment complex tenants are paying a tiny tiny fraction of property taxes. In no way equal to the amount of money they would receive in a voucher program.

If you are renting a home, then I agree the tenant is likely cover property taxes too. But depending on the amount, tenant may still receive more dollars from a voucher than they put into the system.

It doesn’t matter. That is the current cost per student that the public schools receive.

Exactly that public schools receive. Residents are getting additional money above their tax contribution to go to a public school. If they want to go to a private school they should NOT get a voucher above their tax contributions. I’m ok with them getting the exact amount they put in.

If they stay public, which is why the special tax exists… then so be it.

I think that’s the issue @toreyj01 has. And I agree with him. If you pay 1k in school property taxes and want to go private… we should give you that 1k back. Not 8k. 8k is for public.

[WuWei]

Some of that is true and needs to be fixed.

Some of it is wrong.

[WuWei]

@toreyj01

Breeder

[DMK]

Well, you gotta admit this is really about restricting freedom and moving away from the almighty government knows what’s best for you line of thinking.

[WuWei]

That’s wrong.

[PurpnGold]

@zantax

@PurpnGold

@DMK

@toreyj01

pay zero property taxes

Sure, because the landlord is too stupid to pass that along in the price of the rental

In an apartment complex tenants are paying a tiny tiny fraction of property taxes. In no way equal to the amount of money they would receive in a voucher program.

If you are renting a home, then I agree the tenant is likely cover property taxes too. But depending on the amount, tenant may still receive more dollars from a voucher than they put into the system.

No, renters aren’t paying a tiny fraction of property taxes, all property taxes for the building they live in are passed down in the form of rent. Deriding their contribution is no different then complaining someone living in a house valued at 100k pays much less then someone living in a house valued at a million. But hey, if you want to do away with progressive taxes and charge everyone the same, I am on board.

In an apartment complex they are.

[WuWei]

No they aren’t.

[PurpnGold]

@Optrader

@PurpnGold

@zantax

@PurpnGold

@zantax

@PurpnGold

@zantax

@NJBob

There’s that supply and demand thing too.

Demand increased quite a bit recently, private school down the road from me has doubled in size over the last two years, no big price increase.

Then the student to teacher ratio likely increased. But also, no vouchers to drive up the price.

I don’t see how that is a foregone conclusion. New students bring in new revenue to hire more teachers.

Schools have finite space.

So you build more space, not going to increase cost per student unless you outright owned your first building, rent or building payments likely already existed for previous students.

Building more space isn’t free… a school may be able to avoid a price increase to cover the costs of more space and more teachers… but they don’t need to. Private schools are not required to accommodate in that way like public schools.

They will just reject you or charge you more. Vouchers will only exacerbate that. If the government forced price caps on private schools equal to the voucher amount AND they had to admit anyone, it wouldn’t be an issue.

Has the government forced universities to cap their increases?

No, do you like the university system pricing?

[PurpnGold]

@Optrader

And yet Libs provide free healthcare and free education to illegals by the millions who contribute even less than the people they are whining about in this thread

Libs believe yes. But cons don’t. Yet they are ok with it when it comes to vouchers… why?

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@DMK

Well, you gotta admit this is really about restricting freedom and moving away from the almighty government knows what’s best for you line of thinking.

They’re all for giving away money and freedom of choice, so long as people don’t use that money and choice in a way they disapprove of.