Let's Get Something Straight Bernie

[WuWei]

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@WuWei

Fidel Castro and Ernesto Guevara are not people to be admired.

They executed thousands of their own citizens, Che over 150 in one sitting, and tortured thousands more. Including kids.

A “literacy program” does dead people no good.

And that’s not even counting those killed in other countries by exportation of the revolution.

You think we’re so innocent?

Even Obama only executed 2.

[thinkingman]

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@WuWei

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@WuWei

Fidel Castro and Ernesto Guevara are not people to be admired.

They executed thousands of their own citizens, Che over 150 in one sitting, and tortured thousands more. Including kids.

A “literacy program” does dead people no good.

And that’s not even counting those killed in other countries by exportation of the revolution.

the nut wit left college professors worship them. then they lord over the college kids with their leftist nonsense

thats how communists become major pres candidates

College Professors’ careers depend on their ability to publish scholarly work and generate grants.

Can you provide one citation from a refereed journal or an academic press in which a college professor at an accredited institution expresses worship of Fidel Castro or Che Guevara? Can you provide any basis for this accusation? If your accusation is real, it should be no chore to come up with at least a dozen citations.

Here Are Six American College Professors Who Praised Castro Following His Death | The Daily Wire

This article supports my point… The six examples are all private or blog statements by academics, not the academic papers their careers depend on. And most of those comments were partial in their praise – mainly view Castro’s contributions to education and literacy as positive without finding much else to praise. This is not evidence of “worship” in any form.

Can you cite anything – not even an academic paper – that rises to the level of “worship.”

who says it has to be in an official publication? profs have a lot of influence otherwise

Who said it. I did. To hold a tenured position in a university – which are the only positions that matter – you need to publish. Adjunct professors – hired to teach one course – are only vetted for how little money they will work for.

ah ok

well that’s irrelevant. professors can influence students in many other ways. this is just yet another attempt of yours to pigeonhole a narrative

[WuWei]

@Scratch

How does that Trump and Kim Jung Un lovefest strike ya?

This thread is not about Trump or Kim. It’s about Sanders and Castro.

[WuWei]

@H_Arendt

Actually, I have spent a good deal of time in Peru. And yes, I did assume the discussion was about American academics. If you believe that Peruvian academics in the 1960’s are having a large influence on Bernie Sanders’ supporters you are free to believe that.

Sure you have. In El Valle?

[DougBH]

You know, Hitler put a lot of people back to work in the late 30’s and was responsible for building a road system ahead of its time.

Don’t tell Bernie, he’ll want to talk about his good points

[WuWei]

@H_Arendt

Not an academic citation… and the article provides a few words, not even a complete sentence. How can you be confident you know what he was talking about given that minimal a report?

[WuWei]

@thinkingman

who says it has to be in an official publication? profs have a lot of influence otherwise

Worship is an emotion born of love. A feeling of loss when a hero dies for example. Who would expect emotion to come through in an academic article?

[WuWei]

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@WuWei

Fidel Castro and Ernesto Guevara are not people to be admired.

They executed thousands of their own citizens, Che over 150 in one sitting, and tortured thousands more. Including kids.

A “literacy program” does dead people no good.

And that’s not even counting those killed in other countries by exportation of the revolution.

the nut wit left college professors worship them. then they lord over the college kids with their leftist nonsense

thats how communists become major pres candidates

College Professors’ careers depend on their ability to publish scholarly work and generate grants.

Can you provide one citation from a refereed journal or an academic press in which a college professor at an accredited institution expresses worship of Fidel Castro or Che Guevara? Can you provide any basis for this accusation? If your accusation is real, it should be no chore to come up with at least a dozen citations.

Here Are Six American College Professors Who Praised Castro Following His Death | The Daily Wire

This article supports my point… The six examples are all private or blog statements by academics, not the academic papers their careers depend on. And most of those comments were partial in their praise – mainly view Castro’s contributions to education and literacy as positive without finding much else to praise. This is not evidence of “worship” in any form.

Can you cite anything – not even an academic paper – that rises to the level of “worship.”

who says it has to be in an official publication? profs have a lot of influence otherwise

Who said it. I did. To hold a tenured position in a university – which are the only positions that matter – you need to publish. Adjunct professors – hired to teach one course – are only vetted for how little money they will work for.

Schwab is a temp?

[WuWei]

@DougBH

You know, Hitler put a lot of people back to work in the late 30’s and was responsible for building a road system ahead of its time.

Don’t tell Bernie, he’ll want to talk about his good points

Trains ran on time.

[TheRedComet]

We aren’t Castro and Che bad.

Bernie screwed the pooch on this one.

[WuWei]

@TheRedComet

We aren’t Castro and Che bad.

Bernie screwed the pooch on this one.

Name me a President of VP or Secretary of State who executed 150 citizens in one sitting.

[TheRedComet]

None.

That was my point. We aren’t even in the same league as Castro or Che. They were monsters and the world is better that they are being consumed by worms.

We’ve done some bad things. Every country’s leadership at one point has done things they can’t be proud of. But nothing on our end compares to what men like Castro did.

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@WuWei

@H_Arendt

Actually, I have spent a good deal of time in Peru. And yes, I did assume the discussion was about American academics. If you believe that Peruvian academics in the 1960’s are having a large influence on Bernie Sanders’ supporters you are free to believe that.

Sure you have. In El Valle?

One of my closest friends lives in Lima – in Barranco.

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@thinkingman

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@WuWei

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@WuWei

Fidel Castro and Ernesto Guevara are not people to be admired.

They executed thousands of their own citizens, Che over 150 in one sitting, and tortured thousands more. Including kids.

A “literacy program” does dead people no good.

And that’s not even counting those killed in other countries by exportation of the revolution.

the nut wit left college professors worship them. then they lord over the college kids with their leftist nonsense

thats how communists become major pres candidates

College Professors’ careers depend on their ability to publish scholarly work and generate grants.

Can you provide one citation from a refereed journal or an academic press in which a college professor at an accredited institution expresses worship of Fidel Castro or Che Guevara? Can you provide any basis for this accusation? If your accusation is real, it should be no chore to come up with at least a dozen citations.

Here Are Six American College Professors Who Praised Castro Following His Death | The Daily Wire

This article supports my point… The six examples are all private or blog statements by academics, not the academic papers their careers depend on. And most of those comments were partial in their praise – mainly view Castro’s contributions to education and literacy as positive without finding much else to praise. This is not evidence of “worship” in any form.

Can you cite anything – not even an academic paper – that rises to the level of “worship.”

who says it has to be in an official publication? profs have a lot of influence otherwise

Who said it. I did. To hold a tenured position in a university – which are the only positions that matter – you need to publish. Adjunct professors – hired to teach one course – are only vetted for how little money they will work for.

ah ok

well that’s irrelevant. professors can influence students in many other ways. this is just yet another attempt of yours to pigeonhole a narrative

I was questioning to a claim that Professor’s “worship” Castro and Guevara. It seems everyone who is arguing with me is taking that as a given… although it is completely unsupported. I am not trying to pigeonhole, I am trying to refute… and so far no one has backed up the “worship” claim.

[Scratch]

It’s about the outrage being shown of Sanders admiring Castro…Just wondering if there was the same outrage of Trump showering praise on Kim Jung Un…Who has killed his people, and an American also.

[mbus]

@WuWei

Fidel Castro and Ernesto Guevara are not people to be admired.

They executed thousands of their own citizens, Che over 150 in one sitting, and tortured thousands more. Including kids.

A “literacy program” does dead people no good.

And that’s not even counting those killed in other countries by exportation of the revolution.

I completely agree with this post.

On another note: my wife who is a free market lefty (oxymoron jokes welcome at this point), just said she’d rather four more years of the most despicable man imaginable as President, than have Bernie. She’s one voter but that sentiment is out there.

[zonulet]

Geeze they were just social Democrats.

[conan]

Start a thread on it…in fact you might find few of them here already.

This thread is about Bernie praises Castro literacy program.

[conan]

If you take away Trump rhetoric you will find he isn’t some extremist or bogyman.

[FreeAndClear]

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@WuWei

Fidel Castro and Ernesto Guevara are not people to be admired.

They executed thousands of their own citizens, Che over 150 in one sitting, and tortured thousands more. Including kids.

A “literacy program” does dead people no good.

And that’s not even counting those killed in other countries by exportation of the revolution.

I completely agree with this post.

On another note: my wife who is a free market lefty (oxymoron jokes welcome at this point), just said she’d rather four more years of the most despicable man imaginable as President, than have Bernie. She’s one voter but that sentiment is out there.

There are quite a few out there. Anecdotally.