Let's Get Something Straight Bernie

If you take away the most important aspect of being a leader… it’s isn’t that bad? :joy::rofl::joy:

Except they didn’t provide any proof.

Cult membership means you don’t need proof, you just need to belong (though apparently red hats help).

Of course he does. Right in the heart of Sendero territory.

By the way, what does that have to do with you? Go get him, he sounds interesting.

Schwab took care of you.

This thread isn’t about Trump, it’s about Sanders.

Rhetoric is a leadership trait?

Well, at least two libs tried to defend him.

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Or better yet would libs accept casualties to force compliance?

I noticed they were silent on about Bernie accepting casualties. :wink:

Maybe need a new thread for this.

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About that “literacy” program.

It was brainwashing.

The arts thought they had a champion in Cuba and did until the money ran out.

Cuba’s gorgeous, forgotten National Arts Schools on Roman Mars’ 99% Invisible.

There is a Mysteries of the Abandoned episode on this structure also.

:derelict_house:

How cute.

Libs who just a few months ago were saying things like “I’ll never support Sanders” are now lining up to support him.

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100 percent agree, but bear in mind we are also in part to blame for all of this.

We supported Samoza which lead to the rise of Daniel Ortega. When we couldn’t handle that we supported the Contras, which led to the major crisis in the Reagan Administration.

We supported Batista, who was in bed with the US mob. He was a bad guy, just like Castro, and we trained his goons to torture and murder Cuban dissenters.

Both were dictators with blood on their hands, like the Shah of Iran, who we put in place or supported.

So when the folks uprise and install someone just as nasty, we shouldn’t get too self righteous since we are the ones that created this situation in the first place.

Castro, Che and Ortega were all nasty fellows. None of them are laudable in any way. But we created them.

I understand what you are saying, however I disagree. Castro gave rise to Ortega (among others).

And if it had not been for United Fruit, Central America would still be United Undeveloped Jungle.

But what do I know… I just lived and worked there 25 years.

Castro certainly supported Ortega, but we were supporting the Contras. A more vicious group of folks I cannot imagine. Even when Congress passed the Boland Act, banning any support for them, we snuck arms in from the profits of covertly selling missiles to Iran, who was our sworn enemy.

Castro even coordinated the assassination of Samoza, who fled the country with almost the entire nation’s treasury.

But Batista basically sold out his country to US corporations like United Fruit. 70 percent of all arable land was held by US companies and the mob ran all casinos, drugs, and prostitution. Batista got a cut of everything. The poor got really poor and the rich got insanely rich. Anyone who protested was tortured or publicly executed.

And we propped this monster up.

You may know the nuances a hell of a lot more than me, I doubt I have the full story. But from what I know, we helped create this mess along with the mess in Iran, Guatemala, Chile and many other nations. For a few decades we were just wrecking things.

so in absence of any real way to prove your case you just keep bringing up “cult”

what a good soldier

You questioned whether I had any knowledge of Peru so I responded. You can scoff all you want… Since you are unable to post content your major method of responding to me is scoffing. You wish your life was more rich and you wouldn’t have to scoff at people who have led interesting, fun lives.

But scoffing at others is central to the Trump cult, because only Trump’s beliefs matter.

Good point. Whataboutism is solely for the use of the Trump cult. Might as well keep it that way.

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Damn I remember an Guatemalan telling me about this when I was in Florida decades ago, forgot all about that until you just mention it.

And thus the nic name banana republic.

Uh yes. It’s a reflection on their character.

That’s one hell of a list of requirements.

How about we stick to those praising those characters on a regular basis from their pulpits as teachers and professors where students are actually turned into good little revolutionaries?