Let us be clear. President Trump cannot shut down the federal government!

Ummmmm…no. Democrats blamed Republicans and Republicans blamed Democrats…just like today.

You keep telling yourself that. I was here. On the old forum. I remember it.

Let me try this. The name calling used in the post is childish and disrespectful…and strongly mimics the childish disrespect of our current president. I addressed the post, not the poster.

Conservatives blamed Obama, liberals blamed Republicans. There were just more conservatives and fewer liberals then.

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Your not catching what I’m saying…

And no…most people blame Trump if it happens and Trumpies will blame their new boogymen…Pelosi and Schumer just like it’s always been.

If the Democrat Party Leadership, Nancy-Botox-Pelosi and Chucky-boy Schumer would agree to pass the House spending bill allocating $5.7 billion to fund the building of a wall, the following types of invasions would no longer be possible:

But instead of agreeing to pass the bill, the democrat party leadership has decided to block the bill and have a partial government shutdown.

JWK

Illegal immigration is now costing American citizens over $18 billion a year in healthcare costs alone, far more than the measly $5 billion asked for to build a wall! LINK

I did? Where is the link?

JWK

Illegal immigration is now costing American citizens over $18 billion a year in healthcare costs alone, far more than the measly $5 billion asked for to build a wall! LINK

3 government shutdowns when the Republican controlled Senate, house, and presidency…in 1 year. Winning!

Fake figures? You are the one making a fake allegation my friend.

SEE: How American Citizens Finance $18.5 Billion In Health Care For Unauthorized Immigrants

All told, Americans cross-subsidize health care for unauthorized immigrants to the tune of $18.5 billion a year. Of this total, federal taxpayers provided $11.2 billion in subsidized care to unauthorized immigrants in 2016 .

JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.

How did President Trump “shut down the government”?

JWK

Illegal immigration is now costing American citizens over $18 billion a year in healthcare costs alone, far more than the measly $5 billion asked for to build a wall! LINK

He said… on national television… that he would be god to shutdown the government. Did you not see it?

Btw I still would like you to list the names of politicians who are for open borders?

I know what President Trump said. Now tell me how President Trump shut down the government. I believe the shutdown occurred because the Senate did not pass a spending bill, and in particular, the spending Bill sent over by the House. Am I in error?

In regard to your question, I already responded to it.

JWK

Trump demanded $5 billion for his proposed wall along the border with Mexico. Democrats refused. Then House Republicans dug in, declining to pass a bill to keep the government running into February after the president threatened to veto it Thursday.

The house and senate passed a bill, without funding for the wall, and the president refused to sign it… Both the house and senate did their job, the president failed to do his…

It may be a misunderstanding on your part, but Democrats in 2018 are the minority party right now. Their votes really don’t matter, provided that ALL Republicans voted in favor of the funding.

Did that happen?

Fat Donald may not be able to do it, shut the government down, but he is perfectly capable of owning the TRUMP SHUTDOWN nonetheless.

SENATE MINORITY LEADER SCHUMER : The one thing I think we can agree on is we shouldn’t shut down the government over a dispute. And you want to shut it down. You keep talking about it.

THE PRESIDENT : I – no, no, no, no, no. The last time, Chuck, you shut it down –

SENATE MINORITY LEADER SCHUMER : No, no, no.

THE PRESIDENT : – and then you opened it up very quickly.

SENATE MINORITY LEADER SCHUMER : Twenty times. Twenty times.

THE PRESIDENT : And I don’t want to do what you did. But, Chuck –

SENATE MINORITY LEADER SCHUMER : Twenty times you have called for, “I will shut down the government if I don’t get my wall.” None of us have said –

THE PRESIDENT : You want to know something?

SENATE MINORITY LEADER SCHUMER : You’ve said it.

THE PRESIDENT : Okay, you want to put that on my –

SENATE MINORITY LEADER SCHUMER : You said it.

THE PRESIDENT : I’ll take it.

SENATE MINORITY LEADER SCHUMER : Okay, good.

THE PRESIDENT : You know what I’ll say: Yes, if we don’t get what we want, one way or the other – whether it’s through you, through a military, through anything you want to call – I will shut down the government. Absolutely.

SENATE MINORITY LEADER SCHUMER : Okay. Fair enough. We disagree.

THE PRESIDENT : And I am proud – and I’ll tell you what –

SENATE MINORITY LEADER SCHUMER : We disagree.

THE PRESIDENT : I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck, because the people of this country don’t want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country. So I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it. The last time you shut it down, it didn’t work. I will take the mantle of shutting down.

HOUSE SPEAKER-DESIGNATE PELOSI : That is (inaudible).

THE PRESIDENT : And I’m going to shut it down for border security.

SENATE MINORITY LEADER SCHUMER : But we believe you shouldn’t shut it down.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/transcript-of-the-heated-exchange-between-trump-pelosi-and-schumer-2018-12-11

Well, that stunt certainly backfired for Trump. And now, in his Trumplike manner, he’s acting like it never happened. I wonder if his base are aware of this transcript/video?

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I am thinking those who are aware have relegated to some dusty back room of their minds, just as they listened and blocked Fat Donald’s statements he was going to build a 30’ to 35’ high “concrete” wall at the border, which he now denies and tries to blame the Democrats for making that up.

:laughing:

TDS

Trump Defense Sickness is real and very much alive on the Right.

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The rubes are the trump syncophants.