Legalizing All Illegal Drugs

So wanting to end a policy that is an objective failure = zero laws and now we can murder people.

I should have known there was zero chance for an adult conversation. :roll_eyes:

I say legalize all natural “drugs,” decriminalize all non-natural drugs, and prosecute people for actual crimes they commit against other people, not for what they put in their own bodies.

To hell with NORML, lets look at over a hundred peer-reviewed and published studies conducted here in the United States on how medicinal cannabis really is:

Lets start with the fact that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has owned the patent on using cannabinoids as neuro-protectants and anti-oxidants since 2003.

And there are hundreds of other government-sanctioned/published studies on how cannabis kills tumor cells. This isn’t a secret, it’s a control measure, and a profitable one at that.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1576089
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20090845
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/616322
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14640910
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19480992
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15275820
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15638794
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16818650
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952650
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20307616
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16616335
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16624285
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10700234
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17675107
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14617682
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17342320
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16893424
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15026328

Uterine, testicular, and pancreatic cancers

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20925645

Brain cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11479216

Mouth and throat cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20516734

Breast cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18454173
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16728591
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9653194

Lung cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25069049
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22198381?dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21097714?dopt=Abstract

Prostate cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12746841?dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3339795/?tool=pubmed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22594963
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15753356
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10570948
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19690545

Blood cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12091357
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16908594

Skin cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12511587
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19608284

Liver cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475304

Cannabis cancer cures (general)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12514108
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15313899
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20053780
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18199524
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19589225
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12182964
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19442435
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12723496
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16250836
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17237277

Cancers of the head and neck

http://ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2277494

Cholangiocarcinoma cancer

http://ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19916793
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21115947

Leukemia

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15454482
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16139274
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14692532

Cannabis partially/fully induced cancer cell death

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12130702
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19457575
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18615640
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17931597
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18438336
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19916793
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18387516
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15453094
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19229996
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9771884
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18339876
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12133838
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16596790
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269508
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15958274
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19425170
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17202146
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11903061
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15451022
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20336665
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19394652
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11106791
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19189659
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16500647
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19539619
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19059457
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16909207
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18088200
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10913156
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18354058
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19189054
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17934890
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16571653
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19889794
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15361550

Translocation-positive rhabdomyosarcoma
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19509271

Lymphoma

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18546271
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16936228
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16337199
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19609004

Cannabis kills cancer cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16818634
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12648025
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952650
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16835997

Melanoma

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17065222

Thyroid carcinoma

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18197164

Colon cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18938775
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19047095

Intestinal inflammation and cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19442536

Cannabinoids in health and disease

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18286801

Cannabis inhibits cancer cell invasion

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19914218

Virtually every system in our body is specifically equipped with cannabinoid receptors. We are designed to ingest these molecules as a part of our overall health.

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General welfare.

Alcohol is way more dangerous than weed.

I am ok with decriminalizing harder drugs, but say like heroin, if you are dealing you go to prison. As far as a user goes, I would rather as a taxpayer pay for rehab and medical than lock them up for a felony and ruin their lives.

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Second-to-last link in the list:

Cannabinoids in health and disease.

Cannabinoids in health and disease - PubMed

Abstract

Cannabis sativa L. preparations have been used in medicine for millennia.

However, concern over the dangers of abuse led to the banning of the medicinal use of marijuana in most countries in the 1930s.

Only recently, marijuana and individual natural and synthetic cannabinoid receptor agonists and antagonists, as well as chemically related compounds, whose mechanism of action is still obscure, have come back to being considered of therapeutic value. However, their use is highly restricted.

Despite the mild addiction to cannabis and the possible enhancement of addiction to other substances of abuse, when combined with cannabis, the therapeutic value of cannabinoids is too high to be put aside.

Numerous diseases, such as anorexia, emesis, pain, inflammation, multiple sclerosis, neurodegenerative disorders (Parkinson’s disease, Huntington’s disease, Tourette’s syndrome, Alzheimer’s disease), epilepsy, glaucoma, osteoporosis, schizophrenia, cardiovascular disorders, cancer, obesity, and metabolic syndrome-related disorders, to name just a few, are being treated or have the potential to be treated by cannabinoid agonists/antagonists/cannabinoid-related compounds.

In view of the very low toxicity and the generally benign side effects of this group of compounds, neglecting or denying their clinical potential is unacceptable–instead, we need to work on the development of more selective cannabinoid receptor agonists/antagonists and related compounds, as well as on novel drugs of this family with better selectivity, distribution patterns, and pharmacokinetics, and–in cases where it is impossible to separate the desired clinical action and the psychoactivity–just to monitor these side effects carefully.

Natalya M. Kogan, MSc
Natalya M. Kogan, Medicinal Chemistry and Natural Products Dept, Pharmacy School, Ein-Kerem Medical Campus, the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel;

Raphael Mechoulam, PhD
Raphael Mechoulam, Medicinal Chemistry and Natural Products Dept, Pharmacy School, Ein-Kerem Medical Campus, the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel;

No love lost for the dealers that prey on the vulnerable, but all the love in the world for people whose lives are so ■■■■ that they need a chemical vacation.

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The Constitution absolutely does NOT do that.

Forget something known as the 9th Amendment?

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

This country has all but ignored the 9th and 10th Amendments for about 150 years now.

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Yes but it’s fingernails across the chalkboard for “Constitution-loving” conservatives, who love to be insufferable about how they’re the last bastions of constitutional knowledge, to completely ■■■■ up on a basic constitutional premise.

It’s fingernails across the chalkboard (we’re old for knowing this term now) for anyone of any political persuasion who has ideas they want to force on others.

If gay people have the right to marry, I have the right to carry concealed.

If people have the right to do pop Adderall and muscle relaxers together, I have the right to smoke a joint and eat some mushrooms.

People routinely ignore the 9th and 10th Amendments because it means other people get to do things they disagree with.

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More accurately:

Not allowing people to smoke a naturally-growing plant that manking has been smoking for ages yet has not yet caused mankind to become extinct.

It really IS amazing that in the year 2019, we still let people go bankrupt for medical costs, but also fight tooth and nail to make sure people don’t get tingly for a few hours by smoking a natural plant.

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I have found that most people who are against legalization have never smoked it or lived around it in any meaningful sense (im sure there exceptions). I remember when my parents caught me with marijuana growing up, my Mom yelled that I could have died lol. Like…ok this is a bit ridiculuous. The only real danger with marijuana is taking too much and having severe anxiety if you are prone to it. I’d wager thats more safe than your liver failing.

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When it comes to life and death, perfection is all we can accept, and when they aren’t perfect, they must be held accountable. The problem is that too often they are not.

But but but the 2nd amendment is supposed to exist to stand up to an oppressive government…so if they government is going to win at least 99% of the time, then that purpose of the 2nd seems a little fruitless.

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It’s time we consider moving to system that rehabilitates, rather than incarcerates, drug addicts. We can either keep the vicious cycle going, or we can attempt change.

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Agreed 100%.

That is what freedom ACTUALLY looks like.

Would everyone agree all drugs should be over-the-counter–no prescriptions needed?

No. Legalized does not mean uncontrolled.

I’m all for legalizing everything, but it’s a political nonstarter.

In the last ten years, the widespread legalization/decriminalization/“medical” thing with pot has made it signficantly less cool with Gen Z/Gen Alpha. Stats back this up. And anecdotally, managing big staffs of mostly young women, it’s shocking how few of them are pot smokers. Ten, fifteen years ago, almost everyone I worked with in the service industry smoked.