January 6th Commission Thread

Ok and this matters why?

Big part of the story. Yuge part.

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Sure. He was awful and besides the crazies he is only liked (protected) because conservatives don’t want to see liberals in power.

Other than misusing “liberal,” that’s probably a as good an assessment as any.

Given the antics on display the past 6 years, I worry about anyone who would give progs power.

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Fine- the “Left”. Yup y’all know he’s an awful toxic person but it’s obvious (and sad to us on the Left) that you will shield him for literally everything. I think that’s a mistake on the part of the Right to abdicate “a line”. But there it is.

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Brandon saw to it that Trump will be larger than his Presidential deeds before the bullhorn insurrection.

Energy independent will be legend until we get that back.

The proletariat went MAGA, in no small part due to Clinton. And that Woke crap. And illegal immigration.

I think those are the Big 3. And Trump heard them, then told them what they wanted to hear. And did something about every item on the list (even if it was wrong).

The proletariat hates the media too, and they loved it when he was rude to them. Even I laughed. The proletariat is tired of being called racists and homophobes. Bigots and ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■. Tired of being blamed for mass shootings.

The radical wing of the dem party is building up a lot of resentment. A lot of conflict with the fair-cheating moral foundation.

I know there are a lot of dems who will claim whataboutusisms and there’s something to that.

But would you rather be called a communist or a bigot?

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That’s a good point. “Miss me yet” is a thing.

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I get that Trump tapped in to the rage at woke Lefty know it all elitists trotting out the race card etc. I get that it felt awesome for someone to “tell it like it is”, stop playing nice and not backing down for the sake of currying favor. I get that a lot of conservatives were sick of boring milk toast Romney-ites who weren’t really getting anything meaningful done. I get why Trump was important.

Until it all turned South- and the raging Id actually backed up his shock jock rhetoric by actually acting like a dangerous narcissistic crazy windbag who cares nothing except enlarging his ego.

By then it was too late to pull back. Too late to draw a line. Too late to rope him in even when he literally threatened the Republic. Better to laugh it off, downplay it, pretend it’s not happening rather than to feel a fool that has been tricked by a conman.

Anyways, it looks like he’s fading- and I can only hope that conservatives don’t choose someone equally dangerous.

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When was that?

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I would put Trump in the larger context of how the lowest common denominator is winning. It’s winning in media (look at Tucker/Fox and MSNBC). Look at media with empty social media posts and reality TV. Look at choosing the worst and most exciting drugs (fentanyl and meth). Look at crypto currency, streaming porn and fast food.

We want a hit- quick, fun, cheap and entertaining. We’re heading for a societal cliff because we are all addicts for that quick hit.

I don’t disagree with anything in that post. Why do you think that is happening? What do you have against crypto-currency?

You sound like a conservative boomer. :rofl:

When did Trump turn south?

I don’t have a problem with any of it on a small level. I like a Big Mac and trading bit coin as much as the next guy. But I see how it’s becoming one gigantic mess. We’re hooked on whatever will get us revved up, wired, ragey, get our rocks off, make us a ton of money fast man…

It’s not a good road and it’s not a good destination.

A long long time ago. He is our secret Id- that says whatever the ■■■■ lusts after everything, eats McDonald’s all the time, screams at people, will do anything for a buck. He is you. He is me.

Right. But:

Is how he got elected and did policy. So you are obviously referring to Presidency.

Then:

When was that?

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The quintessential New Amsterdam-er. American Nations.

I love that book!

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If you’re asking when it became dangerous for us as a country- we’d probably just disagree.

I’m asking when it “turned south”?

I doubt it, let’s give it a shot.