January 6th Commission Thread

In the beginning it was mostly just shock without true danger. By the time he was sending his henchmen on missions to try and kneecap his political opponents in Ukraine, it was obvious he was willing to cross a line that threatens our Republic. The final days were obviously the worst.

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Ah, I see. In response to…

As I said, I will give you the last 2, even 3 months. After the election, he lost his mind. Bigly.

45 vs 3. And the 3 were lame duck.

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By the way- if we put this all within the context of the American Nations book,

A lot of this is a struggle between yankeedom and Greater Appalachia. Between being abstemiously told what to do and the desire for freedom liberty and never being told what to do.

And it took a New Netherlands shock jock to truly say “ ■■■■ off” to the know it all Yankees.

I get why he struck a vein.

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Biden is a pretty obvious embodiment of Yankeedom and I entirely get why conservatives loathe him for that. Vaccine mandates sums it up.

That book is on my list. I assume it comes with Orygun’s seal of approval?

Hell yeah! It’s flawed but I think it’s amazing…and an easy read compared to some similar social politics books.

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Perhaps, but how many times do you have to repeat the same thing?

Nonsense. The first NG showed up at the Capitol at 5:40 pm… after the crowd had begun to leave the building and disperse.

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First of all - +5

Close, but I’m going to disagree. Trump is a New Netherlander, not from Yankeedom. My guess is it came after grandpa immigrated. Or it could be because of the region of Germany and trade.

You omitted the Deep South, a great source of Trumpism.

Greater Appalchia is historically a nation of being on the cusp of early adopters and early majority, I believe driven mostly by the fair-cheating morale foundation.

They also greatly resent imposition.

The historical battle is between Yankeedom and the Deep South, with the others forming alliances based on need and conflict.

Lately Greater Applachia, the Far West and of course the Tidewater have allied with the Deep South, but I think the former two are mostly because of a common enemy thing.

Anyway, the war is individualism vs collectivism. How each nation lines up in that war is pretty well explained by American Nations.

Can’t forget the nation’s he left out either.

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Seems like I read the insurrectionists sorted of drifted away.

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Name one flaw please.

Oh no he’s not. Tidewater 100%

I talked to Colin Woodard last summer in Camden Maine.

Nice guy.

People shouldn’t use that book like a horoscope.

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His latest book “Union” is pretty good.

What a stupid thing to say.

I do like the premise as a thumbnail sketch of regional differences, but the idea that a person from a certain region will embody that region is quite silly.

The whole thing breaks down real quick when one looks into the the differences within the regions.

I see rural Maine having more politically in common with Rural Virginia than it does with Boston even though Rural Maine is Yankeedom.

Woodard has also written quite a bit about the rural/ urban political divide which I think is more indicative of what the political divide is within the country rather than the American Nations.

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Great post. Ok yes I was saying that as a free wheeling mostly amoral New Netherlander- Trump could deliver a great ■■■■ you to Yankeedom with all it’s woke rules and moral requirements. And I get that it’s more complicated with the underlying conflict between the South and Yankeedom.

But I think it’s really the scotch Irish borderland Greater Appalachia rabble that “aint gonna be told what to do” that is ascendant right now. You can see it in Kentucky senator Paul telling off Fauci.

It can be summed up by what you said…

“They also greatly resent imposition.”

and I would say they would cut their nose off to spite their face to not put up with yankee high minded ■■■■■■■■■ You can see it in people who would rather die than be told to take the vaccine. I would say that supporting Trump is another example. They’d rather support an amoral ■■■■■■■ than be told they need to “be better” or whatever.

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Fair critique/ but I see it less as a way of describing geographical areas and more at describing different aspects of the American experience. For sure you’re gonna get people from different areas of the country embodying “yankeedom” or “the Deep South” but it’s a pretty fair read of these different parts of the American psyche forever battling with one another.

Cartoonish and simplistic could be said. I still dig it.

Off the rails. Compare rural Maine to rural Massachusetts.