The Taliban have the power.
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IDKā¦ Maybe if we tried to understand their culture rather than have them adapt to ours we would have been more successful even if not by āourā standards?
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They could never adapt to our culture in their ānationā and we could never accept their time honored traditions in ours.
They do have a tradition of business though, and a lot of them really like having modern day things nowadays for sale on the side of the road. A few of them are even good enough that billions of dollars can be made with higher nations.
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He should have had benchmarks for the Taliban to stand down.
As soon as they took a single city or Province the deal should have been over.
That was how Trump had crafted the drawdown and it was working.
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That was also a possibility, but still hard to keep them out of the Kabul. They will just blend in with populace.
I started the process, all the troops are coming home. They couldnāt stop the process.
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Couldnāt stop it. No problem screwing it up.
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Biden could do whatever he wanted. Just look at the Covid seeding from the border with Mexico.
If nothing else Biden mangled the timing. Trump was willing to wait even though it did not help his campaign in 2020.
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Those videos of the Afghanis falling off the sides of the C-17 are pretty wild. Iām impressed with the ones that held on for the first 1,000 feet up. That was a solid few seconds of freefall.
From what little I know I would agree with you.
I was listing to a gentleman on talk radio who said heād spent most of his adult life in Afghanistan. He said the biggest failure was creating bureaucracies and not working the the War Lords.
While we may not like them, while they may be culturally different, IMO we should never be so arrogant as to assume our way is the best way.
One size does not fit all.
IDK, Six. Youāve been there. I would defer to people who have been there over assuming I know anything at all.
Iām not trying to be dense but Iām not sure I understand that.
Didnāt we have a minimum number of troops there and all was mostly quiet?
Now, we have mass chaos and 5K troops being sent back to help with evacuations?
I saw one. Looked to me like it was just birds. People falling would get bigger in the video. I donāt think someone can hold on that long unless they had an arm stuck in gear door and then it finally got ripped off. They would have been doing in excess of 200 kts by then,
But I have only seen the one video.
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What a complete cluster ā ā ā ā ā
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I take back the part where I said āweā could āneverā accept their time honored traditions here. There are unfortunately many who think raping animals and children should be socially acceptable. They would welcome a large influx of people like that, but it would still end up being too much of a bloody mess over here, and thatās bad for business/influence.
Afghanistan is in a position to produce profit for our country without our people being involved in each otherās lives. Itās best to keep it that way.
We did but Biden pulled most of the troops and our airpower. Not sure how many were left but obviously not enough.
Got to say it looks like a beautiful country judging by the pictures my friend has shown me and what youāve posted on the board.
Too bad itās filled with nut jobs.
Iām not saying to bring it here. 
Iām asking if we had accepted the bad for the greater good over thereā¦ Would we have eventually made better progress.
So, for instance if you had a thousand Taliban on a road intent on doing great harm yet there were women and children amongst them? Would the greater good to be to eliminate them all to save a lot more in the future?
Why would you do that before our citizens were safely evacuated first?
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Probably desperate for a publicity event.
āLook everyone, I the great Joseph Biden, has gotten everyone out of Afghanistan.ā
Considering his issues he wanted to rush it to get some popularity buzz going.
Now that has backfired on him.
