Is China eating our lunch?

of course if you refuse to acknowledge the evidence there is none.

Catch up with reality.

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They don’t want to know on the left.

I agree with Senator Paul that the man is a liar.

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Also, how do you go about seeing if a bug can infect humans without some gain of function efforts? They cannot just try to infect some humans, or as is the case: human tissue, one and done and that’s that. No, they’re going to work with generations of bugs through multiple trials.

Douglas Adams (essentially) said that the problem with fool proof systems is the abundance of complete fools. The sort of research in question is predicated on the unsustainable belief that systems put in place do not break down and stuff subsequently get out.

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Accusations from hyperpartisans are evidence?

Even when shown plainly, you’re wrong, you choose to remain in denial.

K… :sunglasses: :tumbler_glass:

If there were real evidence Fauci would have to prevaricate and make excuses rather than his flat out denial that it ever happened. Somebody spun the ■■■■ out of that and Paul is parroting it cuz it fits the narrative. Fauci made no excuses, he told Paul he was full of krap.

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All of that is worth it, as long as American corporations can continue to be profitable and meet shareholder expectations.

Corporate America owns congress. Until we fix that…nothing will change.

If only there was a law, or laws, that could reign in all that influence… :thinking:

So you trust a pol…vs a career scientist working in the public sector.
Doh!

What bio/science degree do you have?

By that standard you should shut up too. Your blind trust in a person to be honest because of his credentials is unfounded because you lack the specialist knowledge to know if he’s being honest or not.

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Nope…

I do put some cred to an individual, who has PHD level education, and has been in the field for decades. I also look to see if that individual, is in line with other experts in the field as well.

I understand that cons need to discredit elite experts in their field. It is the only way they can get people to buy into their BS.

By reading many of the posts here…sadly it works.

This is a mistake.

I’ll use small words so you can understand.

Gain of function research is not just when the genes are directly manipulated but if a process of selective breeding is effectively used where viruses are propagated in a consistent type of tissue — say human tissue — to determine through a number of generations if it can reliably infect that tissue. This weeds out lineages of the virus that cannot easily infect the tissue type being tested for.

To do research to see if a virus can infect humans, without just trying to infect actual people, is going to result in gain of function efforts actually being performed.

Fauci is a liar.

Blah, blah, blah.

I do not believe you.

In a world of hypersonic missiles it seems the aircraft carrier especially would be more than obsolete if the country possessed these weapons. From what I have read no country possesses a missile defense system to counter one of these weapons.

maybe you’ll believe the nih?

when will leftists learn?

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Now there are reports of a second Chinese test:

Russia and India have been testing similar technology:

Now the US confirms a test of a similar technology.
https://news.yahoo.com/us-conducts-successful-test-hypersonic-211024470.html

One possibility is that China has jumped well ahead of the US and poses major threat. Another possibility is that the military-surveillance complex is hyping the situation to get more funding.

Given the poor track record of information from the military and surveillance officials it is impossible to say which is true.

Biden was asked tonight if we would come,to the defense of Taiwan if it were attacked. Biden responded “Yes, we have a commitment to do that.

Should we go to war with China if they attack Taiwan? What commitment is Biden talking about?

Endless diplomacy is a form of defense. But Biden mumbling at the CCP won’t help Taiwan re China.