BlueTex
August 11, 2018, 4:21pm
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Absolutely not and didn’t mean to imply that at all… I am suggesting that we should facilitate making is easy (and secure) to always have an accurate voter registration on file. The issue in Texas is the state doing everything they can to make it more likely that when people update or renew their drivers license online less likely that these people will have an accurate voter registration which eliminates them from voting since their ID will not match their drivers license.
When Texas implemented it’s new voter id requirement a few years ago I was required to cast a provisional vote because my license had the appropriate suffix but my registration didn’t have the suffix. I don’t typically use the suffix since my father has been dead for many years.
Smyrna:
I live in Mayberry where everybody knows everybody. Also the small area still has a number of precincts that divide it up into even smaller areas. Since I had just recently had moved there, they didn’t know me but they were familiar with my residence and checked me off of the list. I don’t think it’s a perfect system and would rather have a federally issued voter ID.
Huh? What does your house have to do with anything?
Smyrna:
It’s a local landmark.
Which has nothing to do with citizenship.
BlueTex:
How do you think people register to vote in the rest of the US? Do you think they bring in their birth certificate or something? Everyone “attests” on their registration application. Most states are smart enough, like California, to have state records to corroborate the attestations …
i had no idea that was a word.
BlueTex
August 11, 2018, 6:33pm
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Smyrna
August 11, 2018, 7:41pm
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It has to do with identification…in Mayberry, USA.
Fraud would be far too easy with it.
BigBear:
So, is what you wrote accurate? No, it’s not. Are people “registered to vote” automatically by virtue of getting a driver’s license? No, they’re not.
What is “blocking their way” is the normal voter registration process. Nothing different whatsoever, it’s simply an option to apply, and have the application filled out, still requiring the normal process, docs, and subject to normal verification.
So, in the future, if you write: “People in California are registered to vote when they get a driver’s license!” or similar, you’ll be doing what? That’s right, you’ll be lying.
Perhaps you should inform the state.
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/california-motor-voter/
BlueTex:
BS… I’ve registered to vote in several states over my lifetime and have NEVER been asked to provide documentation for voter registration other than my drivers license number… If a state can’t verify your eligibility based on their electronic records, you would likely have to provide additional documentation, otherwise, they do all the verifying electronically…
There is no database of US Citizens.
No, not legally they can’t. The only way to obtain one here and in most states would be to use fraudulent documents.
BlueTex:
Absolutely not and didn’t mean to imply that at all… I am suggesting that we should facilitate making is easy (and secure) to always have an accurate voter registration on file. The issue in Texas is the state doing everything they can to make it more likely that when people update or renew their drivers license online less likely that these people will have an accurate voter registration which eliminates them from voting since their ID will not match their drivers license.
When Texas implemented it’s new voter id requirement a few years ago I was required to cast a provisional vote because my license had the appropriate suffix but my registration didn’t have the suffix. I don’t typically use the suffix since my father has been dead for many years.
It’s extremely easy in Texas to register or update your registration without going to the DMV.
It has everything to do with your residency in the district.
If your license was issued by a “Real ID” compliant state your citizenship had to be verified to obtain the license.
STODR
August 12, 2018, 10:31am
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Are you talking legal non-citizens or or all non-citizens? I believe only 12 states allow illegal citizens to get a license or permit.
WorldWatcher:
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What I find missing in the discusssion is the fact that California actually issues two types of Drivers Licenses: Real ID compliant and non-Real ID compliant.
(As noted previously, DMV does not register you to vote, they electronically transmit a request for voter registration which still must be checked prior to the person actually getting registered.)
REAL ID Compliant:
This means that someone does have to show proof of their legal status and provide relevant data, this data can then checked by the voter registration people to determine if someone is legal to register to vote. Since illegal aliens wouldn’t have the proper documentation or proof of legal status, this seems reasonable.
non-REAL ID Compliant:
Apply for REAL ID - California DMV News Releases - California DMV
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An individual is not registered to vote at DMV, their application to register to vote is transmitted to the CSOS.
From you link…
"If you indicate that you are eligible to vote, once you complete your DMV transaction online, by mail, or in person, your voter information is transmitted securely and electronically to the California Secretary of State. Once your eligibility to vote is determined, you will be registered to vote.
Individuals with AB 60 driver’s licenses are not eligible to participate in the California Motor Voter program and are not eligible to vote."
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BlueTex
August 12, 2018, 11:31am
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WildRose:
Nor should we.
It’s federal law and we WILL have it soon…
BlueTex
August 12, 2018, 11:34am
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Complete BS… Here are the requirements for a non-citizen DL in Texas…https://www.dps.texas.gov/DriverLicense/LawfulStatusDLID.htm
See that fancy trick? It’s called google…
There are literally millions of drivers in the US who are non-citizens…
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BlueTex
August 12, 2018, 11:41am
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Sigh… Did anything in my reply mention a database of US citizens?
it’s almost like I use the word occasionally… 
