I thought Obama was smarter than this

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

I’m not ignoring history, I’m stating a present day statistical fact.

You are doing both.

@SottoVoce

Discrimination is the unfair or unjustified distinction or treatment of an individual based on a characteristic such as race. The distinction is statistical. I have not advocated any specific treatment of blacks based on their vaccine hesitancy.

As soon as you grouped them, it became discriminatory.

Really? Grouping individuals by characteristic is discriminatory?

Yes. Of course it is.

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

@FreeAndClear

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

I’m not ignoring history, I’m stating a present day statistical fact.

You are doing both.

@SottoVoce

Discrimination is the unfair or unjustified distinction or treatment of an individual based on a characteristic such as race. The distinction is statistical. I have not advocated any specific treatment of blacks based on their vaccine hesitancy.

As soon as you grouped them, it became discriminatory.

Really? Grouping individuals by characteristic is discriminatory?

You are being led .

Come on now, I was a post or two away from the pay-off. You ruined the build up.

It will still pay off. Go ahead.

[SottoVoce]

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

I’m not ignoring history, I’m stating a present day statistical fact.

You are doing both.

@SottoVoce

Discrimination is the unfair or unjustified distinction or treatment of an individual based on a characteristic such as race. The distinction is statistical. I have not advocated any specific treatment of blacks based on their vaccine hesitancy.

As soon as you grouped them, it became discriminatory.

Really? Grouping individuals by characteristic is discriminatory?

Yes. Of course it is.

Grouping people into males and females is discriminatory? How about by age, like minors and adults? Atheists and theists? As soon as someone talks about people belonging to those groups, they’re being discriminatory?

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

Grouping people into males and females is discriminatory?

Of course.

@SottoVoce

How about by age, like minors and adults? Atheists and theists? As soon as someone talks about people belonging to those groups, they’re being discriminatory?

Of course. Yes to all.

[SottoVoce]

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

Grouping people into males and females is discriminatory?

Of course.

Male and female bathrooms. Discriminatory. Male and female sports teams. Discriminatory. Differences in male and female insurance premiums. Discriminatory. Differences in male and female healthcare utilization. Discriminatory.

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

How about by age, like minors and adults? Atheists and theists? As soon as someone talks about people belonging to those groups, they’re being discriminatory?

Of course. Yes to all.

Minor and adult legal differences. Discriminatory. Minor and adult social, economic and lifestyle tendencies. Discriminatory. Atheist and theist divorce and charity statistics. Discriminatory.

Those sum things up accurately?

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

Male and female bathrooms. Discriminatory. Male and female sports teams. Discriminatory. Differences in male and female insurance premiums. Discriminatory. Differences in male and female healthcare utilization. Discriminatory.

Of course.

@SottoVoce

Minor and adult legal differences. Discriminatory. Minor and adult social, economic and lifestyle tendencies. Discriminatory. Atheist and theist divorce and charity statistics. Discriminatory.

Those sum things up accurately?

Of course.

It seems like you believe “discriminatory” or “discriminating” is derogatory?

[SottoVoce]

@WuWei

It seems like you believe “discriminatory” or “discriminating” is derogatory?

Using this definition:

@SottoVoce

Discrimination is the unfair or unjustified distinction or treatment of an individual based on a characteristic such as race. The distinction is statistical. I have not advocated any specific treatment of blacks based on their vaccine hesitancy.

Yes. Discrimination is “derogatory.” Although I think “negative” is a better descriptor than “derogatory.”

If you think otherwise, I wonder what this was meant to infer:

@WuWei

Your statistics are racist, they ignore the story of the black nation, the oppression, in this country. The health inequities.

It is extremely discriminatory.

The emphasized text seems to infer a derogatory or negative stance towards discrimination.

[WuWei]

Ah, I see the problem. That’s not my definition.

[SottoVoce]

@WuWei

Ah, I see the problem. That’s not my definition.

…which is?

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

Ah, I see the problem. That’s not my definition.

…which is?

Separating or segmenting based on established criteria. We do it all day every day.

[SottoVoce]

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

Ah, I see the problem. That’s not my definition.

…which is?

Separating or segmenting based on established criteria. We do it all day every day.

What do you call it when you separate or segment based on established criteria in a way which is unjustified or unfair?

[Borgia_dude]

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

Male and female bathrooms. Discriminatory. Male and female sports teams. Discriminatory. Differences in male and female insurance premiums. Discriminatory. Differences in male and female healthcare utilization. Discriminatory.

Of course.

@SottoVoce

Minor and adult legal differences. Discriminatory. Minor and adult social, economic and lifestyle tendencies. Discriminatory. Atheist and theist divorce and charity statistics. Discriminatory.

Those sum things up accurately?

Of course.

It seems like you believe “discriminatory” or “discriminating” is derogatory?

Well you must believe we live in an incredibly racist nation as we collect statistics based on race. Our government does this routinely. Racist!!!

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

Ah, I see the problem. That’s not my definition.

…which is?

Separating or segmenting based on established criteria. We do it all day every day.

What do you call it when you separate or segment based on established criteria in a way which is unjustified or unfair?

Bigotry.

[WuWei]

@Borgia_dude

Well you must believe we live in an incredibly racist nation as we collect statistics based on race. Our government does this routinely. Racist!!!

Of course it is. The next question is why.

[Borgia_dude]

@WuWei

@Borgia_dude

Well you must believe we live in an incredibly racist nation as we collect statistics based on race. Our government does this routinely. Racist!!!

Of course it is. The next question is why.

I disagree.

Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group

[SottoVoce]

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

Ah, I see the problem. That’s not my definition.

…which is?

Separating or segmenting based on established criteria. We do it all day every day.

What do you call it when you separate or segment based on established criteria in a way which is unjustified or unfair?

Bigotry.

OK. Let’s go with that. What is it called when people are then treated differently based on bigotry?

[WuWei]

@Borgia_dude

@WuWei

@Borgia_dude

Well you must believe we live in an incredibly racist nation as we collect statistics based on race. Our government does this routinely. Racist!!!

Of course it is. The next question is why.

I disagree.

Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group

It’s right there in your definition

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

Ah, I see the problem. That’s not my definition.

…which is?

Separating or segmenting based on established criteria. We do it all day every day.

What do you call it when you separate or segment based on established criteria in a way which is unjustified or unfair?

Bigotry.

OK. Let’s go with that. What is it called when people are then treated differently based on bigotry?

Bigotry.

[SottoVoce]

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

Ah, I see the problem. That’s not my definition.

…which is?

Separating or segmenting based on established criteria. We do it all day every day.

What do you call it when you separate or segment based on established criteria in a way which is unjustified or unfair?

Bigotry.

OK. Let’s go with that. What is it called when people are then treated differently based on bigotry?

Bigotry.

It’s not illegal to be a bigot. It is illegal to discriminate. If a person is not hired based on race or not allowed to rent an apartment based on sexual orientation, that’s bigotry, not discrimination?

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

Ah, I see the problem. That’s not my definition.

…which is?

Separating or segmenting based on established criteria. We do it all day every day.

What do you call it when you separate or segment based on established criteria in a way which is unjustified or unfair?

Bigotry.

OK. Let’s go with that. What is it called when people are then treated differently based on bigotry?

Bigotry.

It’s not illegal to be a bigot. It is illegal to discriminate. If a person is not hired based on race or not allowed to rent an apartment based on sexual orientation, that’s bigotry, not discrimination?

Are we discussing legalities now? How boring.