Poor attempt at gaslighting.
11 House Democrats object to Ilhan Omar's comments on Hamas and Israel
Omar has been criticized by members of her own caucus for saying the U.S. and Israel had committed "unthinkable atrocities."
Poor attempt at gaslighting.
Lol whut?
This is hopeful - perhaps your party might finally recognize that it has an anti-Semitism problem after all.
Omar has been criticized by members of her own caucus for saying the U.S. and Israel had committed "unthinkable atrocities."
Sknyluv:Lol whut?
This is hopeful - perhaps your party might finally recognize that it has an anti-Semitism problem after all.
11 House Democrats object to Ilhan Omar's comments on Hamas and Israel - CBS News
What about any of that was anti-Semitic?
What about any of that was anti-Semitic?
Yup. Goes back to the idea that some people think being critical of Israel means you hate Jews. They can’t separate a nation from a religion.
Sknyluv:What about any of that was anti-Semitic?
Yup. Goes back to the idea that some people think being critical of Israel means you hate Jews. They can’t separate a nation from a religion.
I agree, to a point. Judaism is more than a religion, not unlike Islam.
What percentage of Israel is not Jewish? Who is making all policy in Israel?
Then there are parallels. Can I be critical of the black nation for 99% in support of Dems without being labeled a racist?
I agree, to a point. Judaism is more than a religion, not unlike Islam.
What percentage of Israel is not Jewish? Who is making all policy in Israel?
Then there are parallels. Can I be critical of the black nation for 99% in support of Dems without being labeled a racist?
There is no formal “black nation.” That’s a subset of Americans based on skin color. There is a nation of Israel and there is no prerequisite of needing to be Jewish to be a member. That being said, I think there are ways of being critical of the actions of a so-called race without being racist.
There is no formal “black nation.” That’s a subset of Americans based on skin color.
“Formal”. Nice. There is most definitely a de facto black nation, whether you recognize it or not.
I believe you might be conflating “nation” and “country”.
There is a nation of Israel and there is no prerequisite of needing to be Jewish to be a member.
I disagree. Again you are referring to the country of Israel.
That being said, I think there are ways of being critical of the actions of a so-called race without being racist.
I’d appreciate an example.
“Formal”. Nice. There is most definitely a de facto black nation, whether you recognize it or not.
I believe you might be conflating “nation” and “country”.
Nation and country can be used synonymously given the context. Perhaps “nation-state” would be less confusing for the context I am using.
I disagree. Again you are referring to the country of Israel.
The nation-state of Israel does not require its citizens to be of the Jewish faith.
I’d appreciate an example.
African-Americans, as a group, are hesitant to receive the COVID vaccine. I do not agree with their reasoning and think they should be more accepting of the vaccine.
Nation and country can be used synonymously given the context.
I disagree.
Perhaps “nation-state” would be less confusing for the context I am using.
When you use “nation”, you inject culture. Game changer.
The nation-state of Israel does not require its citizens to be of the Jewish faith.
Legally, I understand that. But they are. Do the Muslims there identify as “Israeli”?
African-Americans, as a group, are hesitant to receive the COVID vaccine. I do not agree with their reasoning and think they should be more accepting of the vaccine.
That’s racist.
That’s racist.
Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
In saying blacks tend to be hesitant to receive the COVID vaccine, I’m using statistics not prejudice and have used qualifiers to not include all blacks. I’m not being discriminatory or antagonistic. That being said, if people want to use what I said as some sort of “gotcha,” they can knock themselves out.
Legally, I understand that. But they are. Do the Muslims there identify as “Israeli”?
Currently 14 members of the Knesset are Israeli Arabs, of which at least 4 are Sunni Muslim. I believe they identify as “Israeli.” 17.8% of Israeli citizens are Muslim according to the CIA World Factbook. I don’t have a poll, but I’d assume many of those 1.5 million Muslim Israelis identify as “Israeli.”
In saying blacks tend to be hesitant to receive the COVID vaccine, I’m using statistics not prejudice and have used qualifiers to not include all blacks. I’m not being discriminatory or antagonistic. That being said, if people want to use what I said as some sort of “gotcha,” they can knock themselves out.
Your statistics are racist, they ignore the story of the black nation, the oppression, in this country. The health inequities.
It is extremely discriminatory.
I believe they identify as “Israeli.”
Am I am willing to look at evidence.
By the way, that definition of racism is the white man’s definition.
SottoVoce:In saying blacks tend to be hesitant to receive the COVID vaccine, I’m using statistics not prejudice and have used qualifiers to not include all blacks. I’m not being discriminatory or antagonistic. That being said, if people want to use what I said as some sort of “gotcha,” they can knock themselves out.
Your statistics are racist, they ignore the story of the black nation, the oppression, in this country. The health inequities.
It is extremely discriminatory.
I disagree. I’m not ignoring history, I’m stating a present day statistical fact. Previous oppression and health inequities have nothing to do with it.
Discrimination is the unfair or unjustified distinction or treatment of an individual based on a characteristic such as race. The distinction is statistical. I have not advocated any specific treatment of blacks based on their vaccine hesitancy.
I’m not ignoring history, I’m stating a present day statistical fact.
You are doing both.
Discrimination is the unfair or unjustified distinction or treatment of an individual based on a characteristic such as race. The distinction is statistical. I have not advocated any specific treatment of blacks based on their vaccine hesitancy.
As soon as you grouped them, it became discriminatory.
By the way, that definition of racism is the white man’s definition.
OK. What’s the non-white man’s definition? If there is no contextual definition, there’s no use in discussion.
SottoVoce:I’m not ignoring history, I’m stating a present day statistical fact.
You are doing both.
SottoVoce:Discrimination is the unfair or unjustified distinction or treatment of an individual based on a characteristic such as race. The distinction is statistical. I have not advocated any specific treatment of blacks based on their vaccine hesitancy.
As soon as you grouped them, it became discriminatory.
Really? Grouping individuals by characteristic is discriminatory?
WuWei: SottoVoce:I’m not ignoring history, I’m stating a present day statistical fact.
You are doing both.
SottoVoce:Discrimination is the unfair or unjustified distinction or treatment of an individual based on a characteristic such as race. The distinction is statistical. I have not advocated any specific treatment of blacks based on their vaccine hesitancy.
As soon as you grouped them, it became discriminatory.
Really? Grouping individuals by characteristic is discriminatory?
You are being led .
SottoVoce: WuWei: SottoVoce:I’m not ignoring history, I’m stating a present day statistical fact.
You are doing both.
SottoVoce:Discrimination is the unfair or unjustified distinction or treatment of an individual based on a characteristic such as race. The distinction is statistical. I have not advocated any specific treatment of blacks based on their vaccine hesitancy.
As soon as you grouped them, it became discriminatory.
Really? Grouping individuals by characteristic is discriminatory?
You are being led .
Come on now, I was a post or two away from the pay-off. You ruined the build up.
Crud. Sorry. I will slink away now for party pooping lol