If the state has failed, what law?
The Shocking Truth of the Notorious Milgram Obedience Experiments
The Shocking Truth of the Notorious Milgram Obedience Experiments
If the state has failed, what law?
So can agents of the state, like Floyd. What makes the latter “better”?
there should be no unaccountable enforcement.
in the meantime, i strongly support every man being his own fully equipped menace
You have more unaccountable enforcement now.
Eagle-Keeper: thinkingman: WuWei:I understand, but that doesn’t answer my question. What’s wrong with vigilantes?
not a good idea to start taking the law into your own hands.
There’s no perfect system and there will never be one (despite the promises of lib politicians). Citizen vigilantes can end doing ■■■■ like those idiots that killed Ahmaud Arbery.
So can agents of the state, like Floyd. What makes it the latter “better”?
You have a point there and private citizens don’t get sovereign immunity either so they have much more incentive not to mess it up.
i am probably misreading this so i am not going to guess. What do you mean “for them”?
For those who want them defunded. For criminals. For riotous mobs. For arsonists.
Great post.
But what if it is already anarchy and chaos?
In 92, the LAPD abandoned the Koreans. It was lawlessness.
Who is going to uphold the law? The very state we gave authority to maintain said law and order got in their cruisers and hauled ass in the opposite direction.
thinkingman:there should be no unaccountable enforcement.
in the meantime, i strongly support every man being his own fully equipped menace
You have more unaccountable enforcement now.
where, exactly?
But what if it is already anarchy and chaos?
In 92, the LAPD abandoned the Koreans. It was lawlessness.
Who is going to uphold the law? The very state we gave authority to maintain said law and order got in their cruisers and hauled ass in the opposite direction.
Law or Order, not and
WuWei: thinkingman:there should be no unaccountable enforcement.
in the meantime, i strongly support every man being his own fully equipped menace
You have more unaccountable enforcement now.
where, exactly?
Everywhere. Blue privilege, qualified immunity, policy over law. More laws than can be counted. A “nation of laws”.
But what if it is already anarchy and chaos?
In 92, the LAPD abandoned the Koreans. It was lawlessness.
Who is going to uphold the law? The very state we gave authority to maintain said law and order got in their cruisers and hauled ass in the opposite direction.
i dont see this. most cops try to do the right thing. then comes such leftist lunacy as “defund”
we shouldn’t be tending toward an anarchy because of a few ■■■■■■■ cops
most cops try to do the right thing.
No. They do “the policy thing”. They violate rights. Routinely.
we shouldn’t be tending toward an anarchy because of a few ■■■■■■■ cops
The actually meaning of anarchy is “the absence of central control”. Not “out of control”. Left to their own devices, people get real cooperative real quick.
thinkingman: WuWei: thinkingman:there should be no unaccountable enforcement.
in the meantime, i strongly support every man being his own fully equipped menace
You have more unaccountable enforcement now.
where, exactly?
Everywhere. Blue privilege, qualified immunity, policy over law. More laws than can be counted. A “nation of laws”.
the police are browbeat and battered by idiotic lawsuits, regulations and anti-authoritarian thuggery. so they are leas willing to put their ass on the line. then you get chicago.
this isnt the fault of cops.
what the hell is “blue privilege?”
thinkingman:most cops try to do the right thing.
No. They do “the policy thing”. They violate rights. Routinely.
i dont see this. all i see is pressure on them to do less of what they need to do so that “LaShawn” doesnt sue them for getting manhandled after getting caught stealing from the 7-11
the police are browbeat and battered by idiotic lawsuits, regulations and anti-authoritarian thuggery. so they are leas willing to put their ass on the line. then you get chicago.
this isnt the fault of cops.
Oh horse ■■■■ . It’s not all their fault, but they certainly take advantage of it.
Put their “ass on the line” for what? You? You think they care about you? They do what they do for power. It’s addictive.
The Stanford/Milgram experiments are pretty much banned for a reason.
WuWei: thinkingman:most cops try to do the right thing.
No. They do “the policy thing”. They violate rights. Routinely.
i dont see this. all i see is pressure on them to do less of what they need to do so that “LaShawn” doesnt sue them
Then you aren’t looking. They aren’t doing less, they’re waiting.
thinkingman:the police are browbeat and battered by idiotic lawsuits, regulations and anti-authoritarian thuggery. so they are leas willing to put their ass on the line. then you get chicago.
this isnt the fault of cops.
Oh horse ■■■■ . It’s not all their fault, but they certainly take advantage of it.
Put their “ass on the line” for what? You? You think they care about you? They do what they do for power. It’s addictive.
The Stanford/Milgram experiments are pretty much banned for a reason.
those experiments were from the 50’s and the results are extremely debatable about how they affect authority. if i recall they addressed atrocities from ww2 more than mere cops on the beat.
i guess we’ll just disagree
thinkingman:the police are browbeat and battered by idiotic lawsuits, regulations and anti-authoritarian thuggery. so they are leas willing to put their ass on the line. then you get chicago.
this isnt the fault of cops.
Oh horse ■■■■ . It’s not all their fault, but they certainly take advantage of it.
Put their “ass on the line” for what? You? You think they care about you? They do what they do for power. It’s addictive.
The Stanford/Milgram experiments are pretty much banned for a reason.
Problem is, most of those social science experiments can’t be duplicated and that one, in particular, has been debunked.
The Shocking Truth of the Notorious Milgram Obedience Experiments
those experiments were from the 50’s and the results are extremely debatable about how they affect authority. if i recall they addressed atrocities from ww2 more than mere cops on the beat.
i guess we’ll just disagree
You’re wrong. They were from the 60s and 70s and about the psychology of power. The Stanford experiments were about law enforcement.