How to destroy a nation

Both sides lie. I’m not saying that it’s right. But what you’re saying is, that supporting a liar, is worst than people who actually worship the Devil?

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I acknowledged the felonies Hillary Clinton committed were covered up by a corrupt DOJ. No, it’s not right, but that’s what our corrupt government does, puts it’s own existence above everything else, even the law.

No I am saying that you are supporting the act and since God hates lying and liars end up with the same judgment as Satan and those who follow him you are condoning that which God hates.

You have no problem mentioning someone who is Democrat but murders and others pardoned by Trump you ignore.

You focus on abortion while ignoring the other forms of violence and the greed that abortion is a just a symptom of.

Political morality means more to folks such as yourself than biblical morality.

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God isn’t though, since he’s too busy playing favorites. God Bless America. ■■■■ everybody else.

Hypocrisy. Gotta love it.

Actually, if you read my original OP, you would realize I did not mention or single out any party. I did this deliberately because I recognize and admit (as I have done since I began in the original forum in 2008) that BOTH parties are guilty. As frequently happens, OPs go off on an unintended tangent.

I long ago gave up on the idea of an “honest” politician, especially at the national level. For me it is ideology over personality or character. Trump is no more dishonest than any other president or presidential candidate, nor perhaps any less. I will always vote for the more conservative candidate, or the less liberal if a real conservative isn’t running.

For the record, adultery is morally wrong, lying, cheating, stealing, bribery, slander are all morally wrong. If you honestly believe Hillary Clinton isn’t guilty of every last one of these things, then you are the one not living in reality…

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I’m not sure about that, and I am not the least but religious. What I see in the decline of religion is new religions taking their place. Politics have become a religion to some, with their own Gods of intersectionality, political correctness, etc…

Religious people tend to be more generous as a whole with charity. I am not sure exactly sure this country will be better off without Christianity. I am fearful on what will take its place as Richard Dawkins said.

I doubt the nation will ever be without Christianity. Declining a bit and disappearing are two very different things.

Jesus said his church will continue. The secular world can not end it, but it can persecute and drive it underground. At some point in the near future, liberals and other god haters will gain enough power to do exactly that. Fortunately, Christ will rapture his people before the worst comes…

I’ve called out the Party that I voted for, and Trump himself several times. If people
don’t see that, then that is their own fault.

I admit that I’m not perfect, and neither are the people that I’ve voted for. I don’t
agree with everything that they do or say, but I do agree with them on most things, compared to the Democrat Politicians that support things that play God. Like Abortion.

I could never vote for a Party that supports the legalization of murdering innocent babies. Almost nothing else is worst within this lifetime to murder an innocent child.

How Rowe vs Wade ever came to pass, only shows how the morality within this country has dropped over the years, and with it, came the rise of the Democratic Party, and Socialism, and Evil.

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Abortion is just a symptom of the greed and violence in the world which is supported by Republicans too.

Tell this to the Democrat Politicians in Washington.
They seem to think that it’s all about a woman’s body, and her right to chose, and
not religious related, or related to morality.

Between my wife and myself, we’ve traveled all 7 continents…still would like to see you define American Culture.

Sure right after you do it about guns.

Killing to protect wealth and self are something both parties support.

There is no definition for it, it just is. It amazes me that the party that celebrates diversity is the same party that hates, denigrates and denies our own American diversity. Somehow, acknowledging that we are Americans is synonymous with bigotry or arrogance, so you pretend there is nothing that defines us as Americans to anyone else in the world, and certainly then, nothing to make our country a more desirable place to be than any other country.

Please explain then why millions of people a year try both by legal, and illegal means to get into our country. Why don’t most of the 100,000 people a month now being arrested at our southern border, who cross the entire country of Mexico, not STOP to live in Mexico, or continue north to live in Canada? You liberals deny it’s because of all the freebies you love to give away. Could it be then the uniqueness of America? The unparalleled freedoms? The rights given by the God we worship and protected by a Constitution our forefathers had the wisdom to create? Could it be the opportunities and resources available? What other nation has it so well?

We created baseball, football, basketball and the big mac. We watched Gilligan’s Island, The Brady Bunch and the Dukes of Hazzard. Why didn’t these things come about in any other country? What makes us Americans is more than superficial things like these or an accent, but all of these things and countless others. Anybody born and raised in any country is going to be a reflection of their country, that includes you no matter how offensive it is to you. Anyone with any amount of discernment could pick the American out of just about any mixed crowd. Your American… Wear it proudly.

So… If American Culture is undefinable, how can it be destroyed?

Because it can’t be defined in a few sentences or paragraphs or pages in an opinions forum ( or maybe it’s just that I can’t define it, any other forum members feel free to jump in…), means to you it isn’t something real?

Again, the questions I asked are dodged. If there isn’t something different about us, why do so many want to come? On the other side of that coin; why do some countries ( primarily countries with large radical Muslim populations) hate us? Have you ever seen those radicals burning a Chinese flag ( or Russian, Cuban, Brazilian etc ) and chanting death to them?

I’m curious - Given your opinion, is voting for Donald in 2020 giving tacit consent to that Satanic control of the process?

Well I am not the one who is concerned with this idea that American Culture will be destroyed.

That is one of the reasons why I asked for a definition of it.

Many times when asked for a definition, the concept becomes really squishy and not concrete, which shows that “American Culture” is pretty undefinable, adaptive and resilient thing.

But say that I am wrong. If “American Culture” can’t be defined, then how can it be defended from destruction?

The first thing I said, the lesser of two evils. But, to be a little more clear…

Christians are accountable always to God first. Israel rejected God’s rule and demanded a king so they could be like the other nations. God agreed with their demand but had Samuel give fair warning what they would get if they put man over themselves instead of him. This demand and warning are in the book of Samuel. Read it sometime and see if it doesn’t apply to our ( and every other ) government today.

God gave Israel a king and then, in several places in the Bible, he commanded that a people actually OBEY the king they get. EXCEPT if a king commands his people to disobey God, THEN may a people disobey or even replace a bad king.

In fallen man, no ruler will ever measure up to the character of Christ. Both parties have elected morally reprehensible people. I detested the policies of Barack Obama and despised paying the high taxes imposed by him and Democrats in general, BUT, I pay them because paying taxes is not against God’s law. As I just posted recently, Adultery, lying, cheating, stealing, bribing, slander are morally wrong, but I honestly can’t think of a president, or candidate within my lifetime of 54 years, that is not guilty of most of these things so I have to fall back on the basics given by God.

First: we were created by God in his image. We were formed in the womb and he knew every person before they were born. IOW, abortion is murder. I will NEVER support abortion or a person who supports abortion.

I don’t so much as support the Satanic system as accept it. My sins contributed to Jesus’ crucifixion as much as any other person in history. I don’t receive a “get out of jail free card” just because I’m a Christian. My guarantee is not in this life, but the next. In prosperity or poverty, in health or sickness, in life or death, my life is God’s to do with as he sees fit.

If we get a bad king, we at least can vote him out, better than most people throughout history…