Happy Anniersary, from Planned Parenthood

[MidwestIndy]

@Oldandtired

Your throwing your money at the wrong problem. Let’s see if you can figure out what the real problem is?

I throw my money at things that get results.

Browbeating young men and women doesn’t stop pregnancy.

[Jezcoe]

@Oldandtired

Why not fix the real problem?
Your the one who said woman don’t know where babies come from without all you smart men educating us and giving us free birth control what would we do.
You are the one who said I was morally wrong.
And as I woman I don’t know a thing about women.
Looks like more poor little woman what would they without all us men to show them the way.

What is the “real” problem.

People have sex

It’s like it is almost a function of our bodies or something.

It is also strange to assume that it is only men who advocate for providing easy access to cheap or free birth control.

If you want to reduce abortions, go with what we know works. What’s wrong with that?

[Oldandtired]

Pro life woman are judging the morality of woman who have had abortions and woman who have sex when ever they want.
I work with woman who have had abortions and let me tell you your fix did not fix their problem. It compounded their problem. Some of them it even caused their death. And not one of these woman said if only I would have had free birth control and sex education I would not have not this problem.
Fix the real problem.

[Oldandtired]

Throwing money at the problem is not going to fix it either. Open your eyes and see.

[Jezcoe]

@Oldandtired

Throwing money at the problem is not going to fix it either. Open your eyes and see.

What will fix the “real” problem?

[JayJay]

@Oldandtired

Throwing money at the problem is not going to fix it either. Open your eyes and see.

But money being thrown at “the problem” is not all that’s being done.

That’s the point.

[LucyLou]

@Guvnah

@LucyLou

And yet, a woman having full control of her life and her body and her medical options affects you exactly zero.

So does a woman killing her 3-year-old child.

Yet we all recognize THAT as evil, and I’m glad that you will stand up against that killing.

Yea, that’s totally the same as removing a fetus from a uterus.

[Guvnah]

@Jezcoe

If you want to reduce abortions, go with what we know works.

Right.

Reserve sex for marriage. Conceive babies in love.

That works.

@Jezcoe

What’s wrong with that?

Precisely!

[Jezcoe]

@Guvnah

@Jezcoe

If you want to reduce abortions, go with what we know works.

Right.

Reserve sex for marriage. Conceive babies in love.

That works.

@Jezcoe

What’s wrong with that?

Precisely!

How does one enforce that?

[Guvnah]

@Oldandtired

Pro life woman are judging the morality of woman who have had abortions and woman who have sex when ever they want.

To be fair, it’s not really about judging the past, but trying to change the future. I like this quote:

“The purpose of the pro-life movement is not to impose guilt over past decisions, but to impart wisdom over future decisions.” (Dr Mike Adams)

[Guvnah]

@LucyLou

Yea, that’s totally the same as removing a fetus from a uterus.

To someone with an acceptance of human biology, it most certainly is.

[Guvnah]

@Jezcoe

How does one enforce that?

How does one enforce anything? How does one enforce the use of contraceptives?

Someone with a moral heart doesn’t require enforcement of anything.

[Jezcoe]

@Guvnah

@Jezcoe

How does one enforce that?

How does one enforce anything? How does one enforce the use of contraceptives?

Someone with a moral heart doesn’t require enforcement of anything.

Well… not every one is moral or adheres to the same version of morality.

So… that isn’t really a good way to effect the policy of reducing abortions… if that truly is the desire.

[mobulis]

@Guvnah

@Forcefield

They aren’t celebrating “abortion”.

Of course they are. It’s celebrating the RvWade anniversary.

You guys can pretend to soft-pedal it, but it’s all about abortion. And it is sinister to its core.

Sorry but their not.

[Guvnah]

@Jezcoe

Well… not every one is moral or adheres to the same version of morality.

Right. But you were mentioning “what works”, and if people adhered to that morality, it would work.

Let’s do what works. (Not just what YOU want to see work.)

[mobulis]

@Janet_Miller

It’s already being handed out, and it’s still the same irresponsible dumb asses becoming pregnant when they cannot afford it.

■■■■ free birth control control. They want it that badly, and they want to be treated the equal of a man, they’ll man up and pay for it.

So money is more important than preventing abortions. Got it.

[mobulis]

@Guvnah

@CanadianJudo

no they are celebrating their right to choose.

CHOOSE abortion. CHOOSE to snuff out a human life.

Lib pretenses and wordsmithings are pure disingenuousness. (“I could never get an abortion personally, but it’s none of my business” – if someone else CHOOSES (to kill her own child.) )

Or CHOOSE NOT TO, you guys always ignore that.

[Jezcoe]

@Guvnah

@Jezcoe

Well… not every one is moral or adheres to the same version of morality.

Right. But you were mentioning “what works”, and if people adhered to that morality, it would work.

Let’s do what works. (Not just what YOU want to see work.)

Wishing something to be won’t work.

Let us dwell in the realm of what is real instead of what is wanted but never attainable.

If the goal is to reduce abortions, we know how to obtain that.

Why not do that?

[mobulis]

@JayJay

@Janet_Miller

It’s already being handed out, and it’s still the same irresponsible dumb asses becoming pregnant when they cannot afford it.

■■■■ free birth control control. They want it that badly, and they want to be treated the equal of a man, they’ll man up and pay for it.

Actually abortions are at historic lows, precisely because of better education and supported birth control.

Your argument is a silly one…these efforts reduce abortions…have been shown to reduce abortions more effectively than methods like abstinence-only, etc.

This is a good thing…but you’re pissed because abortions are being reduced in ways you don’t personally like?

Because you want to judge people?

The problem is it costs them money.

[mobulis]

@Oldandtired

This has nothing to do with the morality of woman except in your mind. It has more to do with the morality of men.
And look at your attitude here. You are judging me and I am a woman.
Is this your desire as a man to show me how as a little old woman I am morally wrong and must be corrected. I know mothing about how woman think. No you made your pre judgment and as a man you must be right.
And here we go again. Women don’t know how babies are created and we don’t know enough to provide our own birth control. It must be free because you men can’t be bothered with controlling your urges.
It has always amazed me how men push for abortions. What could their reason be I wonder. Couldn’t be because they have no respect for women. And think of them as nothing more than something to use?
And you are mistaken this is all about the life of the baby.
Many years ago the left pushed the idea that people with darker skin were not human and so they did not deserve the right to life.
They are pushing the same crap now.
It’s not a baby right?

We don’t push for abortions, it is a fetus, and keep your paws out of my sister’s womb.