You don’t even have any idea what level of technology we are trying to catch up to. Sounds like an endless race.
How about we just continue our technology advance as we are?
You don’t even have any idea what level of technology we are trying to catch up to. Sounds like an endless race.
How about we just continue our technology advance as we are?
will Klaatu be wearing a “Biden please let us in” t-shirt?
I recommend pointing a telescope at the moon if you want to see things moving around that don’t make sense.
“Is it aliens, or dust?”
FloridaYankee: zantax:Doesn’t matter if they are alien or terrestrial, currently we are at their mercy. That is unacceptable.
If they are alien they are likely 500 or 1000 or even ten thousand years ahead of us in technology, or a million years, who knows. Nothing we do would make a difference.
Well mark you down for give up and surrender, noted.
LOL, just what makes you think we can make up thousands or hundreds of thousands of years of technological innovation in even a single lifetime nevermind generations? We can’t even build a friggin nuclear fusion plant worth a damn and that would likely be considered primitive crapola.
We’ve been doing “high tech” for well under a century.
zantax: FloridaYankee: zantax:Doesn’t matter if they are alien or terrestrial, currently we are at their mercy. That is unacceptable.
If they are alien they are likely 500 or 1000 or even ten thousand years ahead of us in technology, or a million years, who knows. Nothing we do would make a difference.
Well mark you down for give up and surrender, noted.
LOL, just what makes you think we can make up thousands or hundreds of thousands of years of technological innovation in even a single lifetime nevermind generations? We can’t even build a friggin nuclear fusion plant worth a damn and that would likely be considered primitive crapola.
We’ve been doing “high tech” for well under a century.
Irrelevant, drop me off in the middle of the ocean and I am not just going to give up and drown, I am going to do whatever I can, no matter the odds, to try and stay alive.
FloridaYankee: zantax: FloridaYankee: zantax:Doesn’t matter if they are alien or terrestrial, currently we are at their mercy. That is unacceptable.
If they are alien they are likely 500 or 1000 or even ten thousand years ahead of us in technology, or a million years, who knows. Nothing we do would make a difference.
Well mark you down for give up and surrender, noted.
LOL, just what makes you think we can make up thousands or hundreds of thousands of years of technological innovation in even a single lifetime nevermind generations? We can’t even build a friggin nuclear fusion plant worth a damn and that would likely be considered primitive crapola.
We’ve been doing “high tech” for well under a century.
Irrelevant, drop me off in the middle of the ocean and I am not just going to give up and drown, I am going to do whatever I can, no matter the odds, to try and stay alive.
It’s not irrelevant. It is IMPOSSIBLE to make up thousands of years of technological innovation in anybody’s lifetime including the next ten generations to follow. It is a fool’s errand. We are spending a ■■■■ ton of money on R & D now, more than any handful of nations combined, we should just continue to do that.
zantax: FloridaYankee: zantax: FloridaYankee: zantax:Doesn’t matter if they are alien or terrestrial, currently we are at their mercy. That is unacceptable.
If they are alien they are likely 500 or 1000 or even ten thousand years ahead of us in technology, or a million years, who knows. Nothing we do would make a difference.
Well mark you down for give up and surrender, noted.
LOL, just what makes you think we can make up thousands or hundreds of thousands of years of technological innovation in even a single lifetime nevermind generations? We can’t even build a friggin nuclear fusion plant worth a damn and that would likely be considered primitive crapola.
We’ve been doing “high tech” for well under a century.
Irrelevant, drop me off in the middle of the ocean and I am not just going to give up and drown, I am going to do whatever I can, no matter the odds, to try and stay alive.
It’s not irrelevant. It is IMPOSSIBLE to make up thousands of years of technological innovation in anybody’s lifetime including the next ten generations to follow. It is a fool’s errand. We are spending a ■■■■ ton of money on R & D now, more than any handful of nations combined, we should just continue to do that.
You wouldn’t have to equal them in all respects. Maybe their risk tolerance is low and they would abandon any plan of conquest if we got far enough to take some of them with us. Or maybe the key to manipulating gravity isn’t that far off.
FloridaYankee: zantax: FloridaYankee: zantax: FloridaYankee: zantax:Doesn’t matter if they are alien or terrestrial, currently we are at their mercy. That is unacceptable.
If they are alien they are likely 500 or 1000 or even ten thousand years ahead of us in technology, or a million years, who knows. Nothing we do would make a difference.
Well mark you down for give up and surrender, noted.
LOL, just what makes you think we can make up thousands or hundreds of thousands of years of technological innovation in even a single lifetime nevermind generations? We can’t even build a friggin nuclear fusion plant worth a damn and that would likely be considered primitive crapola.
We’ve been doing “high tech” for well under a century.
Irrelevant, drop me off in the middle of the ocean and I am not just going to give up and drown, I am going to do whatever I can, no matter the odds, to try and stay alive.
It’s not irrelevant. It is IMPOSSIBLE to make up thousands of years of technological innovation in anybody’s lifetime including the next ten generations to follow. It is a fool’s errand. We are spending a ■■■■ ton of money on R & D now, more than any handful of nations combined, we should just continue to do that.
You wouldn’t have to equal them in all respects. Maybe their risk tolerance is low and they would abandon any plan of conquest if we got far enough to take some of them with us. Or maybe the key to manipulating gravity isn’t that far off.
Meh, I don’t believe they would come here on a quest of conquest anyhow, the ROI is like non existent. What do we have the countless other planets closer to them don’t? I would say nothing. If they come here it will be a friendly visit. Unless of course they want us for food along the way like an interstellar rest stop.
zantax: FloridaYankee: zantax: FloridaYankee: zantax: FloridaYankee: zantax:Doesn’t matter if they are alien or terrestrial, currently we are at their mercy. That is unacceptable.
If they are alien they are likely 500 or 1000 or even ten thousand years ahead of us in technology, or a million years, who knows. Nothing we do would make a difference.
Well mark you down for give up and surrender, noted.
LOL, just what makes you think we can make up thousands or hundreds of thousands of years of technological innovation in even a single lifetime nevermind generations? We can’t even build a friggin nuclear fusion plant worth a damn and that would likely be considered primitive crapola.
We’ve been doing “high tech” for well under a century.
Irrelevant, drop me off in the middle of the ocean and I am not just going to give up and drown, I am going to do whatever I can, no matter the odds, to try and stay alive.
It’s not irrelevant. It is IMPOSSIBLE to make up thousands of years of technological innovation in anybody’s lifetime including the next ten generations to follow. It is a fool’s errand. We are spending a ■■■■ ton of money on R & D now, more than any handful of nations combined, we should just continue to do that.
You wouldn’t have to equal them in all respects. Maybe their risk tolerance is low and they would abandon any plan of conquest if we got far enough to take some of them with us. Or maybe the key to manipulating gravity isn’t that far off.
Meh, I don’t believe they would come here on a quest of conquest anyhow, the ROI is like non existent. What do we have the countless other planets closer to them don’t? I would say nothing. If they come here it will be a friendly visit. Unless of course they want us for food along the way like an interstellar rest stop.
Not sure all the other or any large number of them have billions of intelligent potential workers on them. It is futile to try and divine their intent. Since we know virtually nothing about them.
What do we have the countless other planets closer to them don’t?
Processed ore.
zantax:Think we can get Greta Thundberg to throw a fit about it?
Weird post. Belittling someone who has nothing to do with your own thread.
Doubly weird post. How did you arrive at the conclusion of “belittling” from that statement? Greta’s whole persona is one of throwing hissy fits to get her way. Personally, given her bizarre appearance, I think she may have been a passenger or crew member on one of those UFOs. (There, that was belittling. )
Borgia_dude: zantax: Borgia_dude: FloridaYankee: Borgia_dude:Is this thread serious?
If aliens had visited, it means they have light speed or near light speed travel. That alone makes them capable of destroying us with nothing we can do about it.
I don’t believe we have been visited by aliens.
More likely it would require much faster than light speed.
Agreed. And any alien civilization that has near light speed and above can easily destroy our planet or any fraction thereof no matter what “defenses” we can build.
If that’s the case, we should be using every penny we have to catch up.
Catch up to what? Like I said, I doubt any aliens have visited Earth. Why spend money on a phantom menace?
Doesn’t matter if they are alien or terrestrial, currently we are at their mercy. That is unacceptable.
Not to them.
zantax: Borgia_dude: zantax: Borgia_dude: FloridaYankee: Borgia_dude:Is this thread serious?
If aliens had visited, it means they have light speed or near light speed travel. That alone makes them capable of destroying us with nothing we can do about it.
I don’t believe we have been visited by aliens.
More likely it would require much faster than light speed.
Agreed. And any alien civilization that has near light speed and above can easily destroy our planet or any fraction thereof no matter what “defenses” we can build.
If that’s the case, we should be using every penny we have to catch up.
Catch up to what? Like I said, I doubt any aliens have visited Earth. Why spend money on a phantom menace?
Doesn’t matter if they are alien or terrestrial, currently we are at their mercy. That is unacceptable.
Not to them.
Well, if they came to eat people, we know who to offer up first.
zantax: Borgia_dude: zantax: Borgia_dude: FloridaYankee: Borgia_dude:Is this thread serious?
If aliens had visited, it means they have light speed or near light speed travel. That alone makes them capable of destroying us with nothing we can do about it.
I don’t believe we have been visited by aliens.
More likely it would require much faster than light speed.
Agreed. And any alien civilization that has near light speed and above can easily destroy our planet or any fraction thereof no matter what “defenses” we can build.
If that’s the case, we should be using every penny we have to catch up.
Catch up to what? Like I said, I doubt any aliens have visited Earth. Why spend money on a phantom menace?
Doesn’t matter if they are alien or terrestrial, currently we are at their mercy. That is unacceptable.
Human civilization has existed for a few thousand years while the universe is billions of years old. The probability of another civilization existing contemporaneously with us is not terribly high, especially if you include the probability of them being technologically advanced enough to visit us AND the probability of them finding us in this humongous universe.
So … you are saying that it is possible that other, extraterrestrial civilizations exist and may be visiting us.
And we shouldn’t be that difficult for an advanced race to find either. Not like we are trying to hide and yes the universe is huge, computers are very good at those kinds of tasks, if they can detect us from thousands of lights out, not difficult at all.
There are thousands of stars within the 100 light years of “here we are!” emanating from Earth. There could be 10’s of thousands of planets.
Is that another vote for roll over and accept being at their mercy?
Seriously. If any extraterrestrial civilization is advance enough to come here, they are advanced enough to know that if they want to have us at their mercy, they would do it now and not wait until we are capable of repelling them. In other words, if their intentions are hostile, we would already be subjugated or destroyed. Where do you think the Spanish and Portuguese who invaded the Americans would have been had they given the Incas and Aztecs time to “catch up”?
FloridaYankee:What do we have the countless other planets closer to them don’t?
Processed ore.
Soylent green.
Well, if they came to eat people, we know who to offer up first.
We would all be on the menu. Who goes first would be up to their individual tastes.
zantax:Is that another vote for roll over and accept being at their mercy?
Seriously. If any extraterrestrial civilization is advance enough to come here, they are advanced enough to know that if they want to have us at their mercy, they would do it now and not wait until we are capable of repelling them. In other words, if their intentions are hostile, we would already be subjugated or destroyed. Where do you think the Spanish and Portuguese who invaded the Americans would have been had they given the Incas and Aztecs time to “catch up”?
If they are far enough ahead that shouldn’t be a concern to them.