Even too liberal for Whoopie

[Hexenbiest]

I feel sorry for today’s Germans they have things now called 2nd and 3rd generation holocaust survivors. Basically we are going to hammer Germany over something their great grandparents did for forever.

[thinkingman]

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Not really about disagreement. Name etymology is a bit more complex than “yes so is goldbloom” or some such.

unless you provide something more substantial to support your position then yeah it’s pretty much just about disagreement.

My position is the answer.com shouldn’t be relied upon with such gusto as being capable of destroying a narrative not the etymology of the name Goldberg

yes i know. thank you for your opinion.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

@TheDoctorIsIn

You’re arguing that Whoopi Goldberg hates Jews because she said something you personally have said on this message board ?

Did you argue “Jewish” is a race?

No, you argued that it wasn’t.

Just going to slide right by the fact that you agree with Whoopi but also thinks she hates Jewish people?

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I never sayd it would be you can make go ask Alice as pg13. You don’t have to do what Thirteen did

Apples to apples, the movie would have to include everything in the book and use appropriate aged actors. That would land you in jail.

Well no it wouldn’t because they made like that. It’s called Thirteen. Nobody went to jail.

If they had used actors that were really that age, they would be in jail.

They did use actors that were close to that age one of the girls was 15

Again go ask Alice cms be done through the lens of rehab with her verbally recounting the issues she went and showing the psychological effects. That’s what the diary is. It’s her psychological reaction to the drug abuse.

Sure, you could make a G rated movie out of it easily, but you asked if the book was appropriate for children, not if a cleaned up rewritten version of it would be.

I siad 8the graders so pg13 and you brought in the movie. Not me.

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I never sayd it would be you can make go ask Alice as pg13. You don’t have to do what Thirteen did

Apples to apples, the movie would have to include everything in the book and use appropriate aged actors. That would land you in jail.

Well no it wouldn’t because they made like that. It’s called Thirteen. Nobody went to jail.

If they had used actors that were really that age, they would be in jail.

They did use actors that were close to that age one of the girls was 15

Again go ask Alice cms be done through the lens of rehab with her verbally recounting the issues she went and showing the psychological effects. That’s what the diary is. It’s her psychological reaction to the drug abuse.

Sure, you could make a G rated movie out of it easily, but you asked if the book was appropriate for children, not if a cleaned up rewritten version of it would be.

I siad 8the graders so pg13 and you brought in the movie. Not me.

If the movie included everything in the book, the rating would be X, if the actors were really the age of the characters in the book, go to jail. And yes, I brought in movies, because we have mostly agreed that children are not ready for certain content as a country.

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I never sayd it would be you can make go ask Alice as pg13. You don’t have to do what Thirteen did

Apples to apples, the movie would have to include everything in the book and use appropriate aged actors. That would land you in jail.

Well no it wouldn’t because they made like that. It’s called Thirteen. Nobody went to jail.

If they had used actors that were really that age, they would be in jail.

They did use actors that were close to that age one of the girls was 15

Again go ask Alice cms be done through the lens of rehab with her verbally recounting the issues she went and showing the psychological effects. That’s what the diary is. It’s her psychological reaction to the drug abuse.

Sure, you could make a G rated movie out of it easily, but you asked if the book was appropriate for children, not if a cleaned up rewritten version of it would be.

I siad 8the graders so pg13 and you brought in the movie. Not me.

If the movie included everything in the book, the rating would be X, if the actors were really the age of the characters in the book, go to jail. And yes, I brought in movies, because we have mostly agreed that children are not ready for certain content as a country.

That’s because you are visualizing the content and not the point of why it was published to begin with. It’s an absolutely ridiculous metric.

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Based on this premise Poe, Shakespeare, and 1984 have no place in school

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Based on this premise Poe, Shakespeare, and 1984 have no place in school

Some of it. Sure.

[WuWei]

@TheRedComet

I don’t know why they do but it makes me violently angry.

Black people and Jewish people should be natural allies, in my opinion. We have a similar history with oppression and being hated by the majority in the countries in which we were minorities. Society has blamed all of its ills on both the Jews and the Blacks, depending on which country you were in at the time. Our peoples are both victims of mass enslavement, pogroms, and genocides throughout history.

If any two “racial” groups should be close knit and allied, it should be black people and Jewish people. We have a ton in common in terms of our mutual histories.

Maybe that’s why?

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That’s a pretty scary thought. Visualizsation of content as a metric for what is appropriate for children… not a good way to educate children.

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Based on this premise Poe, Shakespeare, and 1984 have no place in school

Some of it. Sure.

It isn’t like there is a shortage of books without explicit adult content to study in elementary and middle school.

[WuWei]

Good question. Wonder why.

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That’s a pretty scary thought. Visualizsation of content as a metric for what is appropriate for children… not a good way to educate children.

So the only thing obscene about explicit sexual content is that readers visualize it? And how are you supposed to not visualize a scene you read?

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Based on this premise Poe, Shakespeare, and 1984 have no place in school

Some of it. Sure.

It isn’t like there is a shortage of books without explicit adult content to study in elementary and middle school.

I am not talking about elementary.

8Th grade is a specific age. Denying teaching teenage angst because of the explicit nature of teenage angst is a scary premise to me.

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@PurpnGold

@WuWei

@TheDoctorIsIn

You’re arguing that Whoopi Goldberg hates Jews because she said something you personally have said on this message board ?

Did you argue “Jewish” is a race?

No, you argued that it wasn’t.

Just going to slide right by the fact that you agree with Whoopi but also thinks she hates Jewish people?

Might want to keep reading.

[zantax]

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Based on this premise Poe, Shakespeare, and 1984 have no place in school

Some of it. Sure.

It isn’t like there is a shortage of books without explicit adult content to study in elementary and middle school.

I am not talking about elementary.

8Th grade is a specific age. Denying teaching teenage angst because of the explicit nature of teenage angst is a scary premise to me.

Nobody is objecting to mere angst.

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@zantax

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That’s a pretty scary thought. Visualizsation of content as a metric for what is appropriate for children… not a good way to educate children.

So the only thing obscene about explicit sexual content is that readers visualize it? And how are you supposed to not visualize a scene you read?

She didn’t describe her sexual or drug experience with any explicit detail. It was discussed not described.

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@tzu

No wriggling, eh.

You want her “fake Jewish” name revoked. What about “Goldberg” - a placename crafted entirely from Germanic elements - is so Jewish that it must be taken away from this particular woman?

Are you suggesting she tried to appeal to the widespread German influence in Hollywood? Really?

[FreeAndClear]

Mere angst is multifaceted. Teenagers are barely human with barely a modicum of understanding not only of the human experience but the world around them. Showing them how teenagers act while teaching them right and wrong way to act is still teaching tjem.

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Mete angst is multifaceted. Teenagers are barely human with barely a modicum of understand not only of the human experience but the world around them. Showing them how teenagers act while teaching them right and wrong way to act is still teaching tjem.

In the end it doesn’t matter what you or I think, it matters what the local parents think.