I really like the Maverick. Rented one a few weeks ago. Perfect size.
It really is the perfect all around vehicle.
And the Ecoboost version is WICKED quick for what it is. I ran one a few weeks ago in my Si. I was shocked. I lost. Lol.
As much as 1/3 to 1/2 depending on outdoor temperature.
Samm:
PurpnGold:
Also never had an issue with the power grid for charging publicly or at home. In California.
ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā California suffered brown outs before EVs every entered the picture.
Thatās cool. I have never had an issue charging at home or on the road. Ever. Had an EV for 8 years so far.
Lucky you. Donāt expect it to last if all your neighbors get EVs too.
Samm:
PurpnGold:
Lower maintenance cost
Lower cost to ārefuelā publicly
Faster similar ICE
Software upgradable at home
āRefuelā at home (12 cent per kw for me after let 9pm)
- until the battery needs replacement.
- sometimes ⦠if you donāt count the value of time.
- hmmm 5 minutes for ICE, 30-45 minutes for EVs.
- ICEs donāt need software upgrades
- anyone can install their own gas supply at home but its not necessary because there are half a dozen gas stations within five miles of the house.
- I had a Tesla over 180000 miles with 8% battery degradation. Original brakes. Original battery
- Good thing I can charge while I am sleeping
- Iāve never wait 30 mins at a charger if I am not eating or shopping
. 20 mins max.
- Yes, they do. And you have to go to the dealer to get them. I donāt. I also get featured added over time for no additional cost. My previous 2015 Tesla had over 30 added over 5 years.
- They can? Who has and for how much?
- Miles are not what degrades the batteries, itās time. 12-15 years and youāre looking at new batteries that cost $5-7,000.
- Iām happy for you. Anyone living in an apartment, particularly if they park on the street canāt.
- Again, Iām happy for you. Most charges take 30-45 miles minutes ⦠and thatās if there is no one in line ahead of you. I on the other hand, have never needed more than ten minutes to top off with gas.
- No they donāt. Iāve never needed a software upgrade for any vehicle I have ever owned. What you describe sounds like warranty upgrades because of an error in the original programming.
- I know several people who installed fueling stations at home. And the fuel company delivers when they get low. No road tax either, if you tap in an emergency generator, which over a few years, pays for the set up. But most people donāt need to because as I said, there are usually half a dozen or more gas stations within five miles of their house.
I forgot about those corded tools. I remember that super annoying weed whacker I had with the cord. Now I have an 80V battery weed whacker. Definitely overkill.
Speaking of chainsaws. I have a Worx Nitro. Chain speed of 59 ft/s. Itās only a 40V. The battery powered tools are really good these days. All except ride on mower. And the gas powered tools do last much longer on a single tank of gas compared to batteries. But thatās no big deal.
Two years ago I sliced through my extension cord with my hedge trimmer. ![]()
I have been very pleased with the battery life of DeWalt. It wonāt outlast a tank of gas on my Stihl, but it will do any job I have had in the yard on two batteries (one 9 Ahr, the other 6.) This sprig for example, I took down a 10-inch Birch, delimbed it, and cut it up to stove length pieces on about 1/3 the use of the 9 Ahr battery. I fairly have more demanding use than that anymore.
PurpnGold:
Samm:
PurpnGold:
Lower maintenance cost
Lower cost to ārefuelā publicly
Faster similar ICE
Software upgradable at home
āRefuelā at home (12 cent per kw for me after let 9pm)
- until the battery needs replacement.
- sometimes ⦠if you donāt count the value of time.
- hmmm 5 minutes for ICE, 30-45 minutes for EVs.
- ICEs donāt need software upgrades
- anyone can install their own gas supply at home but its not necessary because there are half a dozen gas stations within five miles of the house.
- I had a Tesla over 180000 miles with 8% battery degradation. Original brakes. Original battery
- Good thing I can charge while I am sleeping
- Iāve never wait 30 mins at a charger if I am not eating or shopping
. 20 mins max.
- Yes, they do. And you have to go to the dealer to get them. I donāt. I also get featured added over time for no additional cost. My previous 2015 Tesla had over 30 added over 5 years.
- They can? Who has and for how much?
- Miles are not what degrades the batteries, itās time. 12-15 years and youāre looking at new batteries that cost $5-7,000.
- Iām happy for you. Anyone living in an apartment, particularly if they park on the street canāt.
- Again, Iām happy for you. Most charges take 30-45 miles minutes ⦠and thatās if there is no one in line ahead of you. I on the other hand, have never needed more than ten minutes to top off with gas.
- No they donāt. Iāve never needed a software upgrade for any vehicle I have ever owned. What you describe sounds like warranty upgrades because of an error in the original programming.
- I know several people who installed fueling stations at home. And the fuel company delivers when they get low. No road tax either, if you tap in an emergency generator, which over a few years, pays for the set up. But most people donāt need to because as I said, there are usually half a dozen or more gas stations within five miles of their house.
- The avg American keeps their car for 8 years.
- EV might not work if you are in an apartment. Just like a full size gas/diesel might not work with an apartment
- Not with a Tesla supercharger or any 250w or above charger. Unless they are completely empty and going to completely full.
- Any car built in the last 10-15 years have software that may need upgrades with the ECU.
- Forgot you are in Alaska. Seems like a silly use case for just gassing your commuter car. But if you had a farm.. sure.
Cost me $400 to purchase and install a charger at home. Cost me like $8 to charge at home.
Samm:
PurpnGold:
Samm:
PurpnGold:
Lower maintenance cost
Lower cost to ārefuelā publicly
Faster similar ICE
Software upgradable at home
āRefuelā at home (12 cent per kw for me after let 9pm)
- until the battery needs replacement.
- sometimes ⦠if you donāt count the value of time.
- hmmm 5 minutes for ICE, 30-45 minutes for EVs.
- ICEs donāt need software upgrades
- anyone can install their own gas supply at home but its not necessary because there are half a dozen gas stations within five miles of the house.
- I had a Tesla over 180000 miles with 8% battery degradation. Original brakes. Original battery
- Good thing I can charge while I am sleeping
- Iāve never wait 30 mins at a charger if I am not eating or shopping
. 20 mins max.
- Yes, they do. And you have to go to the dealer to get them. I donāt. I also get featured added over time for no additional cost. My previous 2015 Tesla had over 30 added over 5 years.
- They can? Who has and for how much?
- Miles are not what degrades the batteries, itās time. 12-15 years and youāre looking at new batteries that cost $5-7,000.
- Iām happy for you. Anyone living in an apartment, particularly if they park on the street canāt.
- Again, Iām happy for you. Most charges take 30-45 miles minutes ⦠and thatās if there is no one in line ahead of you. I on the other hand, have never needed more than ten minutes to top off with gas.
- No they donāt. Iāve never needed a software upgrade for any vehicle I have ever owned. What you describe sounds like warranty upgrades because of an error in the original programming.
- I know several people who installed fueling stations at home. And the fuel company delivers when they get low. No road tax either, if you tap in an emergency generator, which over a few years, pays for the set up. But most people donāt need to because as I said, there are usually half a dozen or more gas stations within five miles of their house.
- The avg American keeps their car for 8 years.
- EV might not work if you are in an apartment. Just like a full size gas/diesel might not work with an apartment
- Not with a Tesla supercharger or any 250w or above charger. Unless they are completely empty and going to completely full.
- Any car built in the last 10-15 years have software that may need upgrades with the ECU.
- Forgot you are in Alaska. Seems like a silly use case for just gassing your commuter car. But if you had a farm.. sure.
Cost me $400 to purchase and install a charger at home. Cost me like $8 to charge at home.
I have a 2015 Mazda 6 manual transmission. I never got a software update. I guess I could if I go to the dealer, I just never did. I have no problems.
Toll_Collector:
I forgot about those corded tools. I remember that super annoying weed whacker I had with the cord. Now I have an 80V battery weed whacker. Definitely overkill.
Speaking of chainsaws. I have a Worx Nitro. Chain speed of 59 ft/s. Itās only a 40V. The battery powered tools are really good these days. All except ride on mower. And the gas powered tools do last much longer on a single tank of gas compared to batteries. But thatās no big deal.
Two years ago I sliced through my extension cord with my hedge trimmer.
I have been very pleased with the battery life of DeWalt. It wonāt outlast a tank of gas on my Stihl, but it will do any job I have had in the yard on two batteries (one 9 Ahr, the other 6.) This sprig for example, I took down a 10-inch Birch, delimbed it, and cut it up to stove length pieces on about 1/3 the use of the 9 Ahr battery. I fairly have more demanding use than that anymore.
The con of my Worx Nitro chainsaw is the battery life is short. It uses two 20V batteries to achieve the 40V. Thatās what they use on their weaker chainsaws. The motor for the Nitro I have is powerful. Chain speed is 40mph, more than twice their other models. So it drains those batteries really quick. Thank God for Chinese knockoffs.
Cost me $400 to purchase and install a charger at home. Cost me like $8 to charge at home.
Again, Iām happy for you. What should we tell the apartment dweller who parks on the street?
PurpnGold:
Cost me $400 to purchase and install a charger at home. Cost me like $8 to charge at home.
Again, Iām happy for you. What should we tell the apartment dweller who parks on the street?
Wouldnāt they just charge before they parked?
PurpnGold:
Cost me $400 to purchase and install a charger at home. Cost me like $8 to charge at home.
Again, Iām happy for you. What should we tell the apartment dweller who parks on the street?
The same thing we would tell an apartment dweller that wants a full size gas pickup truck. āIt may not work for your living situationā
Samm:
PurpnGold:
Cost me $400 to purchase and install a charger at home. Cost me like $8 to charge at home.
Again, Iām happy for you. What should we tell the apartment dweller who parks on the street?
Wouldnāt they just charge before they parked?
Charged them where? @PurpnGold is talking about charging on his home charging system.
Samm:
PurpnGold:
Cost me $400 to purchase and install a charger at home. Cost me like $8 to charge at home.
Again, Iām happy for you. What should we tell the apartment dweller who parks on the street?
The same thing we would tell an apartment dweller that wants a full size gas pickup truck. āIt may not work for your living situationā
Bingo!
But that applies to all EVs, not just full-size pick-ups. All gas vehicles get their fuel at the same place.
Toll_Collector:
Samm:
PurpnGold:
Cost me $400 to purchase and install a charger at home. Cost me like $8 to charge at home.
Again, Iām happy for you. What should we tell the apartment dweller who parks on the street?
Wouldnāt they just charge before they parked?
Charged them where? @PurpnGold is talking about charging on his home charging system.
Correct. If one lives in an apartment they wonāt have that same convenience that an homeowner would have. Even if the apartment has chargers, they would be shared with others.
PurpnGold:
Samm:
PurpnGold:
Cost me $400 to purchase and install a charger at home. Cost me like $8 to charge at home.
Again, Iām happy for you. What should we tell the apartment dweller who parks on the street?
The same thing we would tell an apartment dweller that wants a full size gas pickup truck. āIt may not work for your living situationā
Bingo!
But that applies to all EVs, not just full-size pick-ups. All gas vehicles get their fuel at the same place.
Most apartments do have the space for a full size pickup or large SUV. Just like most apartments donāt have chargers so an EV might not be as convenient.
Thatās my point. Apartments have constraints with certain cars, that homes donāt have.
Samm:
Toll_Collector:
Samm:
PurpnGold:
Cost me $400 to purchase and install a charger at home. Cost me like $8 to charge at home.
Again, Iām happy for you. What should we tell the apartment dweller who parks on the street?
Wouldnāt they just charge before they parked?
Charged them where? @PurpnGold is talking about charging on his home charging system.
Correct. If one lives in an apartment they wonāt have that same convenience that an homeowner would have. Even if the apartment has chargers, they would be shared with others.
Most city dwellers live in rentals. Are landlords in the habit of providing such amenities to their tenants?
Samm:
PurpnGold:
Samm:
PurpnGold:
Cost me $400 to purchase and install a charger at home. Cost me like $8 to charge at home.
Again, Iām happy for you. What should we tell the apartment dweller who parks on the street?
The same thing we would tell an apartment dweller that wants a full size gas pickup truck. āIt may not work for your living situationā
Bingo!
But that applies to all EVs, not just full-size pick-ups. All gas vehicles get their fuel at the same place.
Most apartments do have the space for a full size pickup or large SUV. Just like most apartments donāt have chargers so an EV might not be as convenient.
Thatās my point. Apartments have constraints with certain cars, that homes donāt have.
Yes, and as I just said, most city dwellers live in rentals.