Electric Cars are coming- no need to drill in Alaska

Not only are EV’s not there yet neither is the power grid.

California with it’s green energy power system can’t keep up now.

What happens when they go from a tiny percentage of EV’s to majority EV’s??

Plus EV’s are out of the price range for the middle class.

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Your last statement is the most concerning. The price. When battery powered garden tools came on the market, they priced themselves to sell in order to compete with gas powered tools. That’s not the case with EVs. They have an overpriced inferior product.

I wondered about that when I was looking into hybrids. From what I read, if you haven’t used the gas engine for a certain amount of time the car will remind you it is time to use it.

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Overpriced and inferior says it all.

Between the price and range limitations i will never go EV with a car.

I have some ev yard tools that are nice. Weed eater, bush trimmer, clippings blower.

My zero turn mower is gas powered though.

Initially, battery powered tools were primarily competing with extension cord tools … selling the convenience of not dragging around a cord or being limited by its length. Once higher powered batteries were developed, convenience also came into play in competition with small gasoline powered tools. (I love my 60-volt DeWalt chainsaw.) And of course, every tool owner could recharge batteries without having to also purchase expensive specialized equipment. EVs by comparison have very little advantage over ICEs in any area to make them attractive as an alternative. If it weren’t for the government tax break, very few people would be buying them.

Lower maintenance cost
Lower cost to “refuel” publicly
Faster similar ICE
Software upgradable at home
“Refuel” at home (12 cent per kw for me after let 9pm)

Also never had an issue with the power grid for charging publicly or at home. In California.

■■■■■■■■■ California suffered brown outs before EVs every entered the picture.

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  1. until the battery needs replacement.
  2. sometimes … if you don’t count the value of time.
  3. hmmm 5 minutes for ICE, 30-45 minutes for EVs.
  4. ICEs don’t need software upgrades
  5. anyone can install their own gas supply at home but its not necessary because there are half a dozen gas stations within five miles of the house.

How much does air conditioning and heat eat up the battery?

That’s cool. I have never had an issue charging at home or on the road. Ever. Had an EV for 8 years so far.

  1. I had a Tesla over 180000 miles with 8% battery degradation. Original brakes. Original battery
  2. Good thing I can charge while I am sleeping
  3. I’ve never wait 30 mins at a charger if I am not eating or shopping :rofl:. 20 mins max.
  4. Yes, they do. And you have to go to the dealer to get them. I don’t. I also get featured added over time for no additional cost. My previous 2015 Tesla had over 30 added over 5 years.
  5. They can? Who has and for how much?

Heat, not so much for me. Heat pump changed the game.

AC… haven’t calculated it personally but I’d say maybe 5% if running blast for a long road trip? I don’t pay attention since I’m never more than 50 miles away from a charger.

I forgot about those corded tools. I remember that super annoying weed whacker I had with the cord. Now I have an 80V battery weed whacker. Definitely overkill.

Speaking of chainsaws. I have a Worx Nitro. Chain speed of 59 ft/s. It’s only a 40V. The battery powered tools are really good these days. All except ride on mower. And the gas powered tools do last much longer on a single tank of gas compared to batteries. But that’s no big deal.

5% wouldn’t be noticeable. We drove to Green Bay Wisconsin from NJ during that heat wave not too long ago. Only because for some reason we could not get a direct flight. I’m not taking two flights in and out. We calculated how many times we’d have to stop for gas. It didn’t change. I’m assuming the AC didn’t have much of an impact. I thought it would be more. Even in an ICE vehicle.

Runaway Charger: The Major Threat Of Hacking EV Stations.

Can I get Norton Anti–Virus for EV’s? :rofl:

I’m really glad you like your car. I really like my truck. It’s nice having choices, isn’t it?

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Modern ICE cars need software updates, too.

My car’s ECM and infotainment firmware has been updated five times total. Three times at the dealership for ECM updates, twice myself by downloading firmware updates for the Infotainment system with my phone. No update added features, just bug fixes.

It’s common on new cars made after the early 2010s.

People who own 2016 and 2017 Miatas got a huge update back in 2019. They added Apple CarPlay and Android Auto to the infotainment system on the car. Required a dealership trip but it was free.

It is. I’m glad you like your truck. I miss having a truck.

That’s the best way.

I love ICEs, I love EVs, and I love Hybrids.

There’s room for all the options and all have their advantages and disadvantages depending entirely on what the owner needs the vehicle to do.

I’m just sad because manual transmissions are nearly extinct. And once EVs (most of which don’t have a transmission) are more established that will mark the final end of the manual transmission in new cars.

I went out of my way to get my Civic Si sedan back in 2018 because it was a 6 speed manual. I ended up having to go to Baton Rouge to get the car since no dealerships in Mississippi had a sedan in stock. Plenty of coupes but I wanted the four door.

I’m hoping Ford releases an EV version of the Maverick. I’ll be there day one.

The old store I used to work at just got a hybrid one as a new delivery truck. And I love that little truck. I’ve been begging my DM and RM to get my store one. 40 miles per gallon city. It’s like a modern version of the old S-10s and Rangers and Tacomas that used to be everywhere. Or my old 01 Frontier Desert Runner I had. It’s just a useful no frills truck. None of the needless luxury modern full size trucks have. Just the basics.

Ive always called them “Billy Goat Trucks.” Not the biggest vehicles and they can’t do the super heavy work of full sizers. But they are fun to drive, easy to park and maneuver around, and give you the utility of a truck bed and light towing capacity. Enough for most jobs anyway.