Dealerships Can't Sell Their Cars and You Can Get a Hell of a Deal - YouTube
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Smart move by Ford.
They have lost so much on EV already.
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thank god someone else sees the idiocy
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If the price of plug in hybrids could be brought down to commonly affordable, there would be a huge reduction in the use of fossil fuels for transportation. If the government had to be involved, this is where the efforts should have been concentrated. Instead, our resources are being wasted on a 100% EV pipe dream that customers arenāt buying, other than as a second car for well off suburbanites.
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Yep global warming during the summer and just weather during the cold winters. 
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The problem with plug in hybrids is they are more complicated than gas vehicles and full EVs. More expensive to maintain than either (especially EVs). They will likely exist in some capacity because there will be people who canāt let go of a gas tank. But the numbers will remain small.
I think fully electric and gas cars will co exist together for the foreseeable future. There are tons of benefits of EVs over gas but in some places the infrastructure isnāt there yet.
There seems to be some dispute over that.
āPlus add power electronics and a battery pack into the equation. Consumer Reports found that both all-electric and plug-in hybrid cars cost about three cents a mile to maintain and repair, compared to conventional gasoline-powered vehicles that cost twice as much.ā
The reasoning being that if you mostly use the electronic components instead of the gas components, there will be less wear and tear on the gas using components than in a regular ice. The more you use the all electric part, the cheaper the maintenance.
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It remains true that the government forcibly shoving tax dollars into a company or technology is NOT an indicator that said company or said technology will do well or even survive.
- Govāt throws money at eco companies
- Dem voters predict great results.
- Only result are bankruptcies and company giving political donations.
- Dem voters donāt even realize they have been fooled this way many many many times.
Itās a scam.
Itās a scam.
Itās a scam.
Itās a scam.
Itās a scam.
Itās an eco-scam.
Itās not even about the environment. Itās about tricking you into voting for them. Itās about laundering your tax dollars.
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That seems logical. If you had a short commute a plug in hybrid might be a better option for the reasons stated above. I might not ever need to use the gas side for 90% of your time in the vehicle.
Sure. Itās like VCs investing in a startup. Most fail, but that doesnāt stop investments in startups.
Ot like people who have no idea what they are doing,
latching on to the latest popular trend to
funnel money to their friends (and future donors.)
How much public seed money was needed to create the auto industry? The film industry? The hotel industry? And yet these provide us great benefit.
When society wants something enough. If it can be built, business will build it.
When it does not want it one group of society will declare the other āwrongā seize their money and give it to politically-connected people who may or may not be able to produce it, but are politically-connected enough to get the money that businesses can get if an only if they actually produce the desired result.
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In 1908 there were over 250 US automobile manufacturers. By 1928 there were 45, and soon just the big 3.
It would be foolish for investors to throw money at green companies just because the government forcibly sends them tax dollars.
More to the point having the government forcibly sending money to one company or one industry over is a scam that does not build companies and does not build industries.
All it does is force us, against our will, to send money to politically connected persons who are not competent enough to produce the product, some of us want. Even when we adopt the outrageous mindset "I donāt care how much of someone elseās money you have to pay, I just want the technology I think would be cool, the most likely result is failure.
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Wait till its a crowded ferry.
So far weāve dodged that bullet.
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Not running an ICE engine for long periods of time is actually bad for the engine and especially bad for the fuel system.
Most hybrids will turn on the gas engine for short periods during drives regardless if it needs to or not for that reason.
Modern gasoline has ethanol, usually 10-20%. It tends to gel up when left stationary for long periods of time. That can destroy the fuel pump and other fuel components.
Itās also a good idea to open your engine up to full throttle once in a while. This helps clean unburnt carbon out of the engine. Excessive carbon build up can cause sticking lifters and valves. Which can destroy the valve train.
Itās not that people canāt let go of a gas tank, itās that EVs just arenāt there yet. Whatās more convenient? Iāve mentioned this before, but I switched out all of my lawn tools to battery power. Because they got to the point where they are good enough. All except my ride on mower. They are either too expensive or donāt do the job. In many cases both.
From a Canadian, no less. 
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My dad used that excuse to floor it, saying ājust blowing out the carbonāā¦lol
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