Do We, As US Citizens, Have A Right

No…

What is? Zoning regulations?

Health, Safety, Protection of other private property owners, Organized chaos.

Which is still prior restraint. Are we supposed to punish people for what could happen?

At the end of the day, it is about fees and funding the bureaucracy and having a stick to beat me with. Control.

Look at the threat in every case of early opening.

It is a means of control.

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I already promised to keep it on my side of the fence.

Do commercial zones pay the same taxes as residential zones?

Tell that to weed states…

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Probably very few places you wouldn’t be able to turn a garage into a small private workshop. It’s when you start opening up to the public that you run into the problems.

Perhaps you don’t understand the topic.

How about a stock pond?

Where I live. No. Commercial zone pays a higher tax (home’s get an exemption off the value that business doesn’t). However if you are in a residential area and have a home based business, you still pay the residential property tax. Milage may vary by state.

I think you’re exactly correct. Maybe I should clarify, I think we should lay guidelines down and set up laws to prosecute damage to others. If you have a pig farm and it stinks up my property, THEN I’ve been harmed and I should be able to petition for intervention. However, if you blow something up and harm someone, criminal charges should be brought. I think the knowledge of intentional or unintentional harm to your neighbor will result in criminal prosecution should keep the honest people honest. Again, JMO.

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Exactly. Now, let’s ask this question: Does their prior restraint work?

Honestly, that’s my main problem with Federal income taxes. I have no right to be secure in my papers… anything I do is now the business of the Feds. The Income Tax amendment is the worst thing we’ve ever done for individual rights in this country.

Technically it’s illegal on the Federal Level. At any moment the feds wanted to, they could crack down. Just like if you grown in Colorado and want to transport to Nevada by vehicle to sale, and you go through Utah . . . . don’t get pulled over, or your ass will be in jail, and the weed confiscated.

News here had a story of a small bus that was converted into a traveling “showroom” and got pulled over in Utah. They had samples packaged for sale, paraphernalia for sale. They had the van and it’s content confiscated, and charged with distribution. They had enough packaged for sale that the state turned it over to the feds. So instead of state charges, they faced Federal Distribution Charges.

This one

Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.

Seems to me it conflicts with 9th…don’t you think?

Do a farmer had to get states permission to milk cows? grow crops or cut trees on his land?

There was nothing in Constitution that tells em they can’t…or restrict them from doing so.

Your making up stuff as we go along.

Are you a citizen of your state?

Depends on what the goal is. If the goal is to track and tax everything we do, then yes. If the goal is to protect society from harm… absolutely not.

I do understand the topic.

Selling commercially from a stock pond, if the local governments find out (from zoning, to the state tax commision on income tax and sales tax) you would be in a heap of trouble. If the fish are for your use only then they shouldn’t care (with the exception of state wildlife officials – they may occassional check the fish for disease and such so it doesn’t spread into the wild).

This is where you can have cows, this is were you can have your blacksmith shop this is where you can grow corn, this is where you can have your workshop.

It was all laid out in Constitution and BoR’s.

Now I understand the need for zoning…but that the problem. Once they’re is a need they take it to extreme.

You know, we were shut down trying to feed the homeless in Houston. A couple in our church started it and we started helping out. They shut us down initially because we weren’t preparing the food in a licensed kitchen. We started cooking out of the church. Then they demanded we get a permit. We did that, then they demanded we get a new permit for every day we wanted to feed the homeless. In the end, the cost was high but we were still managing but ultimately, they just denied the permits. Why? We were ‘creating a public hazard’ … all about control. Had nothing to do with public safety. Hell, some of these folks were eating out of the trash can when we showed up. They were suggesting we were creating a safety issue because we weren’t a commercial kitchen?

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Or making cabinets for neighber legally. You cannot use your home address for light commercial work in areas.

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