Do millennials really know who and what they're really voting for?

dantes · July 11, 2018, 5:46pm

Careful about these stasistics. Many moved moved up, some moved down. Good for those who moved up. But those left over are doing far worse. Median income is down. Wealth is down. Socioeconomic mobility is down.

Wealth disparity is increasing by leaps and bounds.

lulubee · July 11, 2018, 5:54pm

Uh huh…sure. rolling eyes

Perdidochas · July 11, 2018, 7:06pm

The erosion of the middle class has been that more people have gone to the upper middle class. See zantax’ post.

dantes · July 11, 2018, 7:39pm

I replied to Zantax’s post. Perhaps you should have read my post.

zantax · July 11, 2018, 11:36pm

I read it, looked like obfuscation to me.

JayJay · July 11, 2018, 11:57pm

So of course Trump disrupting that is the right thing to do…

WuWei · July 12, 2018, 1:29am

They aren’t “for” things. They’re against things.

CanadianJudo · July 12, 2018, 1:32am

People coming out of school with 100K in debt for a career that no longer exist are not happy with the current state of politics in America…

shocking.

adroit · July 12, 2018, 1:41am

I’m for quite a number of things.

dantes · July 12, 2018, 1:48am

Only if you don’t want to think critically about your own lost.

zantax · July 12, 2018, 10:33am

The loss of the ascendancy of the middle class because they went to college and became wealthy? Ok, I’ll try and deal with it.

dantes · July 12, 2018, 2:13pm

I guess you didn’t read my critique.

zantax · July 12, 2018, 3:53pm

I read it, you ignored the facts, statistically no one moved down, they moved up.

Bomberfox · July 12, 2018, 4:30pm

thinkingman:

Smartazz678:

I really do think millennials are the most uninformed and ignorant of current events in history. There is a video out right now that asked college students what they thought of the supreme court nominee, most went on and on about how that person is a racist, white supremacist, etc, only problem is that it was hours before the nominee was revealed, this shows how dumb downed America has become.

one if the most depressing things to watch is that “man on the street” type interview highlighting the ignorance of the gen pop

i tend not to put much stock in them though since the final product will be edited for effect

having said that it sure seems like overall younger gens are more clueless (on history, current events) and moreso than ever

i guess it always seems this way to the non-young

Thats a good attitude to have when watching these sort of interviews as they tend to be heavily biased in who they choose to interview, not to mention these interviews have way too small a sample size to have any statistical validity to determine any trends so they are not reliable at all.

dantes · July 12, 2018, 7:11pm

Ah, no. That’s not what the study said. Not at all.

zantax · July 12, 2018, 10:23pm

The graphs say otherwise, unless you want to quibble over whether to use a percent or raw numbers. As a percentage of the population, the middle class shrank while the percentage of upper income grew and poverty remained near constant with one percent growth.

Jezcoe · July 12, 2018, 10:32pm

lulubee:

Perdidochas:

I disagree. I think generations cycle. Gen X was not as liberal as the Baby Boomers (and both groups, for the most part, got more conservative with age). I think the latest gen (the post-Millenial Gen Z (for lack of a better term)) is both more liberal and more conservative than the Millenials–they are more pragmatic and interested in adulting.

That is not true, either. Partisan affiliation is formed at the time one is of voting age and it has to do with what is happening (national and world events) at the time they turn 18. People do not get more conservative with age. That is a myth.

Since Trump is such a disaster those coming of age now will most likely be Democrats for life. And those who came of age while Obama was President (and most have a much more positive view of him, then then Conservatives/Trumplicans on this board,) that they will be Democrats for life.

Partisan Loyalty Begins at Age 18 | FiveThirtyEight

I consider myself an exception to this.

I was raised on a steady diet of Rush. Read a lot of the conservative tomes. Moved onto Libertarian and Ayn Rand… but as I have aged I have become dismayed that the richest country in the history of the world at its richest point cannot take care of all of it’s citizens. The 2008 collapse and learning about that also shifted my view about things.

zantax · July 12, 2018, 10:36pm

Jezcoe:

lulubee:

Perdidochas:

I disagree. I think generations cycle. Gen X was not as liberal as the Baby Boomers (and both groups, for the most part, got more conservative with age). I think the latest gen (the post-Millenial Gen Z (for lack of a better term)) is both more liberal and more conservative than the Millenials–they are more pragmatic and interested in adulting.

That is not true, either. Partisan affiliation is formed at the time one is of voting age and it has to do with what is happening (national and world events) at the time they turn 18. People do not get more conservative with age. That is a myth.

Since Trump is such a disaster those coming of age now will most likely be Democrats for life. And those who came of age while Obama was President (and most have a much more positive view of him, then then Conservatives/Trumplicans on this board,) that they will be Democrats for life.

Partisan Loyalty Begins at Age 18 | FiveThirtyEight

I consider myself an exception to this.

I was raised on a steady diet of Rush. Read a lot of the conservative tomes. Moved onto Libertarian and Ayn Rand… but as I have aged I have become dismayed that the richest country in the history of the world at its richest point cannot take care of all of it’s citizens. The 2008 collapse and learning about that also shifted my view about things.

It’s not about can, it’s about should. I see no reason anyone should be taking care of a non-disabled adult. I’m not their mommy.

Jezcoe · July 12, 2018, 10:39pm

zantax:

Jezcoe:

lulubee:

Perdidochas:

I disagree. I think generations cycle. Gen X was not as liberal as the Baby Boomers (and both groups, for the most part, got more conservative with age). I think the latest gen (the post-Millenial Gen Z (for lack of a better term)) is both more liberal and more conservative than the Millenials–they are more pragmatic and interested in adulting.

That is not true, either. Partisan affiliation is formed at the time one is of voting age and it has to do with what is happening (national and world events) at the time they turn 18. People do not get more conservative with age. That is a myth.

Since Trump is such a disaster those coming of age now will most likely be Democrats for life. And those who came of age while Obama was President (and most have a much more positive view of him, then then Conservatives/Trumplicans on this board,) that they will be Democrats for life.

Partisan Loyalty Begins at Age 18 | FiveThirtyEight

I consider myself an exception to this.

I was raised on a steady diet of Rush. Read a lot of the conservative tomes. Moved onto Libertarian and Ayn Rand… but as I have aged I have become dismayed that the richest country in the history of the world at its richest point cannot take care of all of it’s citizens. The 2008 collapse and learning about that also shifted my view about things.

It’s not about can, it’s about should. I see no reason anyone should be taking care of a non-disabled adult. I’m not their mommy.

Sure. That is a fine opinion to have.

But I would counter with that it doesn’t make much sense to deny those who are in need over the fear that a percentage might be getting one over on the system.

dantes · July 12, 2018, 11:17pm

The percentage of low income families went from 25% to 29%. From 1971 to 2015.

Did you actually read the report?