Democrat Leadership: no vax, no job, no Social Security check, no healthcare, no housing

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

So, now you are suggesting all the children of convicts who are put in state facilities and separated from their parents while their parents do their prison time can sue?

No… not at all.

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@johnwk2

@Optrader

Tucker Carlson just ran a story about a lady who will die without getting a kidney transplant. Both she, and her donor were refused the procedure because neither have been vaccinated. The lady who needs the kidney has had Covid and ought to have natural immunity. No exceptions. She was told no vaccine no life saving operation.

I’ve said many times in many threads in this forum: Libs don’t give a rats ass about human life. Absolutely nothing matters to them except power and control! They continue to prove me right. They’re not going to be satisfied until war breaks out….

LETS GO BRANDON!!

Oh come now Optrader. The democrat party leadership do care about human life and are a very compassionate Administration. If they weren’t, why would they be considering to pay reparations to millions of illegal entrants?

See U.S. in Talks to Pay Hundreds of Millions to Families Separated at Border - WSJ

Oct. 28, 2021

“WASHINGTON—The Biden administration is in talks to offer immigrant families that were separated during the Trump administration around $450,000 a person in compensation, according to people familiar with the matter, as several agencies work to resolve lawsuits filed on behalf of parents and children who say the government subjected them to lasting psychological trauma.”

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, has now GONE MAD

Bribery isn’t cheap. For 450 K, I’D vote for Biden!

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@SpacemanSpiff

@Optrader

@SpacemanSpiff

Sooooo, just get vaxxed then.

Soooooo, I guess you’re in favor of hospitals letting EVERYONE die because they have done, or not done what the hospitals believe they should.

I can here it now. “We’re sorry mr. Smith, we aren’t going to give you radiation or chemo treatments because you’re a smoker and we think that isn’t in your best interest.”

You can quit smoking. Can’t just quit being at risk for a COVID-19 infection.

What part of testing do you not believe in or understand??

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

So, now you are suggesting all the children of convicts who are put in state facilities and separated from their parents while their parents do their prison time can sue?

No… not at all.

Well then, what exactly are you suggesting? Foreigners who enter our country illegally with their children and are separated and detained as the law provides have a civil action, but the children of convicts who are put in state facilities and separated from their parents while their parents do their prison time can not sue?

Only the insane thinking of an ACLU shyster lawyer can rationalize such an absurdity.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, has now GONE MAD

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@johnwk2

@SpacemanSpiff

It is preventing and making breakthrough case less severe.

See the following recent news:

Mass. DPH reports 3,741 new breakthrough COVID-19 cases, 46 more deaths among vaccinated residents

W.Va. Officials Say ‘Breakthrough’ COVID Cases On The Rise

“Gov. Jim Justice announced Monday that, over the past eight weeks, there has been a 26% increase in new breakthrough cases, a 21% increase in breakthrough cases requiring hospitalization and a 25% increase in breakthrough deaths.”

Recent data shows 18.5% of new Covid-19 cases in New Jersey are fully vaccinated individuals, governor says

And in PA we find 6% Of Pennsylvania COVID-19 Cases Have Been Among Fully Vaccinated

”The Tri-State region is doing better than many other parts of the country, but cases are climbing here too.”

At this point in time it is pretty clear COVID is here to stay for a very long time. We need to learn to live with it by treating it, and screw the endless vaccine crap which is ruining our lives and destroying businesses, not to mention how it is being used in a manner which is abusive to our nation’s children and dividing the people.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, has now GONE MAD

Divide and conquer. An age old tactic that Lib leaders have used to remain in power since Libism began.

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@SpacemanSpiff

@Optrader

@SpacemanSpiff

Sooooo, just get vaxxed then.

Soooooo, I guess you’re in favor of hospitals letting EVERYONE die because they have done, or not done what the hospitals believe they should.

I can here it now. “We’re sorry mr. Smith, we aren’t going to give you radiation or chemo treatments because you’re a smoker and we think that isn’t in your best interest.”

You can quit smoking. Can’t just quit being at risk for a COVID-19 infection.

Smoking is a personal choice that hurts the lives of the smoker and non smokers alike. Not getting vaccinated is a personal choice that may or may not harm anyone.

The point is hospitals shouldn’t be making choices based on a patients personal choices. RIGHT??

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@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

We wouldn’t find you in other threads moaning about how sovereign immunity makes it almost impossible to successfully sue and win against the government would we?

Nothing stops you from bringing a civil suit against the US Government.

Nothing stops you from suing, but sovereign immunity will usually stop you from winning.

Not when the government does an act that has been deemed illegal

Ignoring immigration laws is illegal. Why do you support that?

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

So, now you are suggesting all the children of convicts who are put in state facilities and separated from their parents while their parents do their prison time can sue?

No… not at all.

Well then, what exactly are you suggesting? Foreigners who enter our country illegally with their children and are separated and detained as the law provides have a civil action, but the children of convicts who are put in state facilities and separated from their parents while their parents do their prison time can not sue?

Only the insane thinking of an ACLU shyster lawyer can rationalize such an absurdity.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, has now GONE MAD

That an immigration policy can’t have a child separation policy.

It costs a lot of money.

[Jezcoe]

@Optrader

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

We wouldn’t find you in other threads moaning about how sovereign immunity makes it almost impossible to successfully sue and win against the government would we?

Nothing stops you from bringing a civil suit against the US Government.

Nothing stops you from suing, but sovereign immunity will usually stop you from winning.

Not when the government does an act that has been deemed illegal

Ignoring immigration laws is illegal. Why do you support that?

They aren’t the government.

This is also children that we are talking about.

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

So, now you are suggesting all the children of convicts who are put in state facilities and separated from their parents while their parents do their prison time can sue?

No… not at all.

Well then, what exactly are you suggesting? Foreigners who enter our country illegally with their children and are separated and detained as the law provides have a civil action, but the children of convicts who are put in state facilities and separated from their parents while their parents do their prison time can not sue?

Only the insane thinking of an ACLU shyster lawyer can rationalize such an absurdity.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, has now GONE MAD

That an immigration policy can’t have a child separation policy.

It costs a lot of money.

We are not talking about immigration. We are talking about illegal entrants.

JWK

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

So, now you are suggesting all the children of convicts who are put in state facilities and separated from their parents while their parents do their prison time can sue?

No… not at all.

Well then, what exactly are you suggesting? Foreigners who enter our country illegally with their children and are separated and detained as the law provides have a civil action, but the children of convicts who are put in state facilities and separated from their parents while their parents do their prison time can not sue?

Only the insane thinking of an ACLU shyster lawyer can rationalize such an absurdity.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, has now GONE MAD

That an immigration policy can’t have a child separation policy.

It costs a lot of money.

We are not talking about immigration. We are talking about illegal entrants.

JWK

Which is part of immigration law.

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

So, now you are suggesting all the children of convicts who are put in state facilities and separated from their parents while their parents do their prison time can sue?

No… not at all.

Well then, what exactly are you suggesting? Foreigners who enter our country illegally with their children and are separated and detained as the law provides have a civil action, but the children of convicts who are put in state facilities and separated from their parents while their parents do their prison time can not sue?

Only the insane thinking of an ACLU shyster lawyer can rationalize such an absurdity.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, has now GONE MAD

That an immigration policy can’t have a child separation policy.

It costs a lot of money.

We are not talking about immigration. We are talking about illegal entrants.

JWK

Which is part of immigration law.

And? We are talking about illegal entrants and the ACLU suing for reparations for illegal entrants.

What is your freaken point?

JWK

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

And? We are talking about illegal entrants and the ACLU suing for reparations for illegal entrants.

What is your freaken point?

JWK

They are suing because the Child Separation policy was unconstitutional, was implemented without any thought into how it would be carried out, was known to be harmful to children yet was expanded… etc…etc.

It was a terrible policy.

We can have an immigration policy with removal of illegal entrants that is not explicitly built to harm children.

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@Jezcoe

@Optrader

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

We wouldn’t find you in other threads moaning about how sovereign immunity makes it almost impossible to successfully sue and win against the government would we?

Nothing stops you from bringing a civil suit against the US Government.

Nothing stops you from suing, but sovereign immunity will usually stop you from winning.

Not when the government does an act that has been deemed illegal

Ignoring immigration laws is illegal. Why do you support that?

They aren’t the government.

This is also children that we are talking about.

Here’s some thoughts: How about if you Libs stop inviting every human being on earth to come to America and get lots of free stuff like free healthcare, education, food stamps, etc? Tell people that asylum can be granted by other countries, ones that are neighbors to the country you are fleeing for example. Arrest and deport those illegals who are caught, and put in prison at hard labor those who committed violent crimes against Americans. Stop giving aid to countries that assist people who are entering our country illegally. Stop allowing people who enter our country illegally to bring in their families. Punish companies with harsh fines if they hire illegals. Stop paying able bodied Americans to not work. Make them work for their daily bread, that way Mexicans wouldn’t come here to take jobs from Americans. Put up a substantial barrier ( like your exalted Lib leaders erect around their own homes) that make it extremely difficult for most people to get over, under or around. All this is common sense stuff that benefits Americans which is why I know you are against them and will defend the status quo, which CLEARLY isn’t working.

Please proceed to defend the Lib position on these things by beginning, BUT TRUMP…

[Jezcoe]

@Optrader

Arrest and deport those illegals who are caught,

Yeah… that can be done without hurting children… If they didn’t cause so much harm to the children this money wouldn’t be going to them.

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

They are suing because the Child Separation policy was unconstitutional,

The child of a foreigner entering our country illegally cannot be held in criminal detention as the parent can be. Under such circumstances, the child is then handed over to the Department of Health and Human Services until the child can be released to a family member, or placed in foster care. What is unconstitutional about that? What provision of the Constitution is violated and how?

JWK

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

They are suing because the Child Separation policy was unconstitutional,

The child of a foreigner entering our country illegally cannot be held in criminal detention as the parent can be. Under such circumstances, the child is then handed over to the Department of Health and Human Services until the child can be released to a family member, or placed in foster care. What is unconstitutional about that? What provision of the Constitution is violated and how?

JWK

We have the internal emails that they knew that this policy was harmful to children

The Trump administration knew migrant children would suffer from family...

We also know that this was explicitly done as a matter of deterrence, not for the safety of the children.

Heck… they lost children.

The Trump administration ■■■■■■ this up.

It really isn’t worth it to defend it.

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

If they didn’t cause so much harm to the children

What freaken harm?

[johnwk2]

You never answered the questions I asked.

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

You never answered the questions I asked.

They were not afforded their due process.

An alien… even an illegal one… cannot have their children removed from them without due process.