Bail is not punishment. It cannot be.
This is as fundamental as it gets.
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What’s that supposed to mean?
Show me where a violent offender was released with no bail. Without citing letters to the editor.
“Prosecutors were able to hold Yohenry Brito, whom Bragg called “the person who we believe to be the most culpable” and who “played the largest role in the incident,” on $15,000 bail at his arraignment Thursday night, and is currently at Rikers Island.”
Here is another along with the other links I provided.
You want to keep denying it?
And another
From your article. You are correct on those 5. They were not the initial ones detained and released.
"A video of the incident went viral, and additional criticism mounted after several of the men were released without bail in an initial court appearance before a different judge
Same incident different judge and different offenders. This judge wasn’t gonna make same mistake. Not same ones originally arrested then fled.
You gotta be nasty with the libs; the only problem is when you’re not nasty enough. It’s nasty all the way down and twice on Thursdays.
Also, can we have a moratorium on the word “gaslighting”? I can’t remember the last time I saw someone here use it correctly. Just stop it. (Props to Katie Kadue for reviving it a decade ago.)
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Same incident, different judge - same offenders. Check the names.
None of them “fled.”
You are correct. So then they were released without bail glad we could agree. Rearresting them to correct the wrong is not what we were addressing.
“Correcting the wrong?”
What about the two people who were arrested, but not charged? Was it wrong that they didn’t have to pay their way out of jail?
They all showed up to court. None of the things you guys worry about happened.
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Oh I get it.
What a strange response.
So you don’t agree with cashless bail?
What about them? Were they held until bail was paid? Which is the discussion is about. Sounds like system worked for them.
They were ROR’d.
You know, the wrong you just mentioned?
Ditto with ‘lying’.
There were 7 people arrested - 5 at the scene, 2 later.
Of the first 5, all were ROR’d, but two of them immediately got picked up by ICE. Of the two who got arrested later, one got bail set at $15/$50k, the other was ROR’d, but later arrested for shoplifting.
Of the three people ROR’d and didn’t get arrested by ICE, one was publically exonerated (the middle finger guy), and the other two showed up for their first court date, and got bail set at $100,000 each.
Of the two picked up by ICE, one was not charged in relation to the attack.
None of them fled.
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Personal attacks are fun!
And good luck figuring out their position.
On the one hand:
On the other:
All that we can be sure of is, let’s be nasty to people who disagree with us. That’s where the fun is!
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I also said cashless is not painful for anyone. But you skip over that to try once again to make a stupid point. Your reputation is well known here. If you want respect debate in good faith don’t lie, admit when you got it wrong. Known of which you do. There are only a few libs with that reputation and you are the top of that group.
What point do you think I’m trying to make?
I agree that cashless bail is not painful for anyone. That’s good.
If you are accused of a non-violent crime, I think you should not have to pay to get out of jail until your trial.
your posts seem to agree with that. But yet you insult and argue.
What does that mean?
I don’t lie.
I do.
Am I to take it that we can talk trash about honored guests now?
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This is why you have the reputation you have. I said it should be painful but cashless isn’t. The very fact you are sitting debating this pretending to not know what was said which I doubt is why you deserve your reputation. If you want answers go read the thread, I am done with your innocent ignorant act.
