WuWei
March 17, 2020, 10:49am
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We downsize it. We reduce inefficiencies and redundancies.
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tnt
March 17, 2020, 10:49am
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I think leadership didnāt repond fast enough to the emerging threat. trump said at 15 cases, we had it contained. It would be zero soon. that doesnāt sound like a leader who is already speaking to statekholders about how to meet the coming challenge.
here is a piece that speaks to another problem. After running through a tabletop discussion of the government role in pandemic response, two thirds of the attendees are no longer in the trump administration.
WuWei
March 17, 2020, 10:50am
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No, some are. Some are picking up pine cones and painting rocks.
tnt
March 17, 2020, 10:52am
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WildRose:
Why do you keep asking the same question which has been answered over and over again?
The CDC didnāt trust the WHO test because it gave too many false positives so they chose instead to finish developing their own which was just a few days behind.
cite a source on that please
tnt
March 17, 2020, 10:55am
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the travel ban was a good move.
But trump thought that was the only move necessary. He literally told us our 15 cases would go to zero soon.
He is too stupid or uninterested to understand he should have been working on MORE good moves - this is not a one move game. But I think we all realize heās more of a tic-tac-toe guy that a chess player.
WuWei
March 17, 2020, 10:56am
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Their government didnāt get in the way.
WuWei
March 17, 2020, 10:56am
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That isnāt going to work.
WuWei
March 17, 2020, 10:58am
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tnt:
one reason is, Trump institued a hiring freeze. There are over 700 positions open at the CDC right now.
Another is he didnāt lead. Didnāt set good expectations and follow up to see that his expectations of preparedness were being met.
They can go to work in the private sector, which is bailing out the GOVERNMENT!!
This is a logistics problem, not a lack of bureaucrats problem.
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tnt
March 17, 2020, 11:00am
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more or less than the 700B we just spent on QE?
WuWei
March 17, 2020, 11:00am
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Yet true. At least you havenāt yet.
tnt
March 17, 2020, 11:00am
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Why didnāt a republican administration get out of the way then?
tnt
March 17, 2020, 11:01am
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WuWei:
They can go to work in the private sector, which is bailing out the GOVERNMENT!!
This is a logistics problem, not a lack of bureaucrats problem.
Itās a leadership, priority and vision problem.
read this:
WuWei
March 17, 2020, 11:03am
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From what I have read, Trumpās FDA certainly did. That is the nature of bureaucracies - not adaptable.
WuWei
March 17, 2020, 11:04am
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Just 3 short years agoā¦
The Seattle vaccine was developed in confluence with NIH
Private sector!!
WuWei
March 17, 2020, 11:05am
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Sknyluv:
WildRose:
I donāt know putting it that way.
One thing they did say from the outset is that the administration wanted to reduce some of the tertiary things the CDC is involved in and return them to their core mission of preparedness.
Iāve worked with CDC through multiple administrations. And the key difference isnāt always funding, itās priorities. Whether that be preventive medicine, tobacco cessation, chronic disease prevention. Should this administration prioritized epidemic response? In hindsight, yes.
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Why should it have before the outbreak?
It wasnt not trustedā¦it was shunned for a test that was flawedā¦
I did a google web search and it didnt bring up anything about trustā¦
Also that as wellā¦soā¦Iād just ignore the trust argument
WuWei
March 17, 2020, 11:06am
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tnt:
conan:
Oh spare me the BSā¦what the ā ā ā ā has CDC been doing all these years? Itās not like they didnāt see something like this coming. They has no such system in place despite the warnings from all those expert that been sounding the alarm.
Your beloved CDC goverment failed you.
Yet, as you readily admired, it did well in past virus outbreaks. The difference is leadership.
The CDC failed. Their leadership failed.
Did it during 09-10 H1N1?