Coronavirus Thread Political II

38,576? Somebody want to explain this to me please.

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*Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction, age, and cause of death.

So a simple lag?

I’m guessing so, especially given how dramatically the numbers drop in the last few weeks.

I live in a country that - IMO- is capable of anything it sets it’s mind to. If we wanted to duplicate their success, we could.

For some reason, we don’t want to…I don’t get it myself.

Let’s try and reach herd immunity for something we don’t know if we can be immune against.

Looks like a valid comparison to me.

Stealing liberty requires much much more.

Americans are becoming agitated.

Pay attention.

Serum testing says possibly 25%. Could be more.

One day, one week, ten days, weeks or months, the final toll is the same.

Arguably it would far less impact economically if it happened all in one day and we’d never have to worry about the system melting down for weeks or months at a time due to the volume.

We’re all going to die and in many cases all it amounts to is the only way to relieve otherwise endless sufferiong.

Would you prefer extending the pain and suffering for months or years or take the first off ramp to avoid it?

I would prefer the latter for myself.

Essentially forcing doctors to extend life no matter how poor the quality until the last possible second at any cost to avoid liability has it’s own moral and ethical problems.

I prefer a rapid exit with dignity instead of suffering myself, extending the suffering and cost for my family, burdening the system when the end is inevitable and running up enormous costs to both myself and family as well as taxpayers.

That’s currently tracking at about .1% mortality rate.

@Adroit, our 10-15 day lag time is gone. Why don’t you wish to discuss mortality rates dropping like a rock and completely cratering anymore?

Did your “model” predict this drop? Did you announce it here publicly when or following your deriding me for saying it was and we’d see it when the lag caught up and that it would continue falling as testing increased in both daily rates and total testing?

Are you ready to admit I was right and you were wrong? Or will you just deflect and move the goal posts as predicted?

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More people get the flu every year than have gotten COVID.

If 60 million people got COVID, estimates are there would be at least 3x as many deaths.

How often has CDC been wrong in thier predictions starting with the 1.2-2.2 million deaths?

It’s summer, natural social distancing and UV disinfection will go a long way along with the herd immunity that has been building since December when the first cases most likely arrived undetected due to the Cover UP by CDC China and aided by WHO.

You’re going to be disappointed on both counts, AGAIN.

Those most at risk can still be protected.

All of this works in our favor.

A prediction is encumbered by the variables input.

Change the variables, the prediction tends to end up less valid.

As of now they have predicted that cases and deaths will go up due to relaxing the things we have been doing to this point.

Natural social distancing? Are you suggesting people are more likely to be more spread out in the summer?

Of course they do which is why cold/flu season starts to wane every year as temps warm up and people move outside.

Spring/Summer/Fall is outdoor recreation season for that very reason.

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We don’t know.

There could be that many with CV19 antibody.

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Nobody knows how many people have gotten COVID.

Let’s stay shut down until we get a 25% vaccine.

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If we weren’t developing antibodies Plasma Treatments would have Zero effect.

Instead they have been show to be close to 100% effective in those receiving them from confirmed recovered patients.

Now that we can conduct widespread antigen/antibody testing for this disease we’ll see just how prevalent that is and be able to determine at what titer levels it produces active immunity and to what degree.

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