Coronavirus Thread Political II

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

You are going to be exposed.

Then there is no point in any of this.

Save the hospital system. Flatten the curve. Protect the vulnerable.

[WuWei]

@Scratch

@STODR

Yes one has a vaccine and one does not. See the difference.

Exactly…Do you? One is preventable, one is not. So you can’t say this is no worse than the seasonal flu, which many the Right and the person I was responding to, was trying to do.

Preventable?

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

You are going to be exposed.

Then there is no point in any of this.

Save the hospital system. Flatten the curve. Protect the vulnerable.

You can’t protect the vulnerable if everyone gets exposed.

[STODR]

@Scratch

@STODR

Yes one has a vaccine and one does not. See the difference.

Exactly…Do you? One is preventable, one is not. So you can’t say this is no worse than the seasonal flu, which many the Right and the person I was responding to, was trying to do.

Obviously you do not. When one is preventable as you say and you still have almost as many deaths because of it. Which one is worse?

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

You are going to be exposed.

Then there is no point in any of this.

Save the hospital system. Flatten the curve. Protect the vulnerable.

You can’t protect the vulnerable if everyone gets exposed.

Yes, we can.

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

Yes, we can.

You said previously that “you are going to be exposed”. Did you not mean everyone is going to be exposed? Cause if not, that means social distancing and quarantines work. And if they work, then they can work for anyone, and not just the vulnerable.

[adroit]

@Jezcoe

Yes. And that happened in a month and a half

No no no.

Literally the single week of April 12 (4/12 - 4/19), we had about the same number of confirmed covid deaths as we did confirmed flu deaths in all of 2017-2018. Remember, when people usually talk about flu deaths, they are talking about the extrapolated estimate. Right now with COVID deaths, we are basically dealing with lab confirmed positives.

The entire 2017-2018 flu season had about 15,600 confirmed flu deaths (later estimates extrapolated it to ~61,000).

The single 7-day period of 4/12-4/19 had about 15,200 confirmed covid deaths.

Crazy.

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

Yes, we can.

You said previously that “you are going to be exposed”. Did you not mean everyone is going to be exposed? Cause if not, that means social distancing and quarantines work. And if they work, then they can work for anyone, and not just the vulnerable.

Operator dependant mitigations. You are going to be exposed. Just like you are exposed to the flu viruses.

When you are, your outcomes are limited to 6.

1. You don’t get the disease.
2. You get it but you are asymptomatic
3. You get it and are symptomatic
4. Symptomatic - Recover
5. Symptomatic - Recover with medical intervention
6. Symptomatic - Die

[Jezcoe]

@adroit

@Jezcoe

Yes. And that happened in a month and a half

No no no.

Literally the single week of April 12 (4/12 - 4/19), we had about the same number of confirmed covid deaths as we did confirmed flu deaths in all of 2017-2018. Remember, when people usually talk about flu deaths, they are talking about the extrapolated estimate. Right now with COVID deaths, we are basically dealing with lab confirmed positives.

The entire 2017-2018 flu season had about 15,600 confirmed flu deaths (later estimates extrapolated it to ~61,000).

The single 7-day period of 4/12-4/19 had about 15,200 confirmed covid deaths.

Crazy.

My bad.

I understand what you are saying now.

[GWH]

Fired up! Ready to go!

[Scratch]

Not %100 preventable obviously…

[GWH]

Math.

60% to reach herd immunity (it’s what I’ve heard anyway)

Virus kills .1% (looking like this more each day)

320,000,000 Americans.

Less than 200,000 dead.

[WuWei]

@Scratch

Not %100 preventable obviously…

What percentage?

[mbus]

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

Yes, we can.

You said previously that “you are going to be exposed”. Did you not mean everyone is going to be exposed? Cause if not, that means social distancing and quarantines work. And if they work, then they can work for anyone, and not just the vulnerable.

Operator dependant mitigations. You are going to be exposed. Just like you are exposed to the flu viruses.

When you are, your outcomes are limited to 6.

1. You don’t get the disease.
2. You get it but you are asymptomatic
3. You get it and are symptomatic
4. Symptomatic - Recover
5. Symptomatic - Recover with medical intervention
6. Symptomatic - Die

7. Recover but with life-long health issues. I’m reading a lot about that.

[WuWei]

@mbus

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

Yes, we can.

You said previously that “you are going to be exposed”. Did you not mean everyone is going to be exposed? Cause if not, that means social distancing and quarantines work. And if they work, then they can work for anyone, and not just the vulnerable.

Operator dependant mitigations. You are going to be exposed. Just like you are exposed to the flu viruses.

When you are, your outcomes are limited to 6.

1. You don’t get the disease.
2. You get it but you are asymptomatic
3. You get it and are symptomatic
4. Symptomatic - Recover
5. Symptomatic - Recover with medical intervention
6. Symptomatic - Die

7. Recover but with life-long health issues. I’m reading a lot about that.

If you have life long health-issues, did you recover?

[mbus]

@WuWei

@mbus

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

Yes, we can.

You said previously that “you are going to be exposed”. Did you not mean everyone is going to be exposed? Cause if not, that means social distancing and quarantines work. And if they work, then they can work for anyone, and not just the vulnerable.

Operator dependant mitigations. You are going to be exposed. Just like you are exposed to the flu viruses.

When you are, your outcomes are limited to 6.

1. You don’t get the disease.
2. You get it but you are asymptomatic
3. You get it and are symptomatic
4. Symptomatic - Recover
5. Symptomatic - Recover with medical intervention
6. Symptomatic - Die

7. Recover but with life-long health issues. I’m reading a lot about that.

If you have life long health-issues, did you recover?

I dunno what Taber’s would say but I’ll check.

[adroit]

@GWH

Math.

60% to reach herd immunity (it’s what I’ve heard anyway)

Virus kills .1% (looking like this more each day)

320,000,000 Americans.

Less than 200,000 dead.

What percentage of NYC do you think has been infected?

[tnt]

@WuWei

You are going to be exposed.

Not if you lived in Taiwan.

[mbus]

@mbus

@WuWei

@mbus

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

Yes, we can.

You said previously that “you are going to be exposed”. Did you not mean everyone is going to be exposed? Cause if not, that means social distancing and quarantines work. And if they work, then they can work for anyone, and not just the vulnerable.

Operator dependant mitigations. You are going to be exposed. Just like you are exposed to the flu viruses.

When you are, your outcomes are limited to 6.

1. You don’t get the disease.
2. You get it but you are asymptomatic
3. You get it and are symptomatic
4. Symptomatic - Recover
5. Symptomatic - Recover with medical intervention
6. Symptomatic - Die

7. Recover but with life-long health issues. I’m reading a lot about that.

If you have life long health-issues, did you recover?

I dunno what Taber’s would say but I’ll check.

My best read (Merriam Webster) is that recovery is an active state. So I presume it’s possible to be recovering but be totally messed up. Some of my 12 Stepper friends are walking (?) testimony to this.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

You are going to be exposed.

Not if you lived in Taiwan.

Do you live in Taiwan?