I’m genuinely surprised that ‘conservatives’, in the face of a virus that has killed 65K and isn’t nearly done, are for some reason arguing that this is not a ig deal, and we don’t need to pull together as a country and bear the common sacrifice tougher in brotherhood…and that instead we should just go about our business.
It’s so incredibly unconservative.
Yet here we are
You literally said that they are pretending that things are much worse than they are to use it as a political weapon during an election year.
Yes.
They are all out to get Trump
Makes complete sense.
Your words, not mine.
I’m not sure how waving that around makes our liberty go away.
You keep missing the flattened curve.
Maybe we made it too flat?
We don’t crap our pants and hide in a hole when the flu kills 40,000-80,000 people a year so why should we do it over this virus?
What does it tell you?
I think you don’t know what a conservative is.
Is that beyond the realm of possibility?
Because we have flu vaccines?
Which only shows how much deadlier the flu is, particularly for the young and healthy.
Most years the vaccine is no more than 40-60% effective at best only half or fewer will even get vaccinated on the average year.
Either way we still lose 40,000-80,000 Americans to it each year on average.
We manage however to go forward each flu season without blowing up the damned economy in panic.
Why are we not talking about Taiwan?
By all means do so please.
For some reason the biggest and best news since this outbreak began isn’t getting much play.
In just two weeks our total mortality rate has crashed from 8% to .9555%.
I wonder why that is.
@Adroit @JayJay as quick as you two have been to point out every piece of bad news since you first noticed a problem a couple of months after the rest of us started expressing concerns with the outbreak in China why haven’t you been the first of us to share the good news?
Your flu death numbers are too high. COVID-19 has killed more Americans in 3 months than flu has during each of the last 9 years. We’ll hit just about 70,000 deaths for COVID-19 tomorrow.
INFLUENZA DEATHS
2010/2011: 37,000
2011/2012: 12,000
2012/2013: 43,000
2013/2014: 38,000
2014/2015: 51,000
2015/2016: 23,000
2016/2017: 38,000
2017/2018: 61,000
2018/2019: 34,000
According to CDC we lost 60-80k in the 2017-2018 season, the worst in forty years.
I just linked the CDC page that shows their numbers. The numbers for 2017/2018 and 2018/2019 are not final, but for 2018/2019 they have it at 34,157.
NEW YORK (AP) — An estimated 80,000 Americans died of flu and its complications last winter — the disease’s highest death toll in at least four decades.
The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Robert Redfield, revealed the total in an interview Tuesday night with The Associated Press.
Flu experts knew it was a very bad season, but at least one found the size of the estimate surprising.
“That’s huge,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a Vanderbilt University vaccine expert. The tally was nearly twice as much as what health officials previously considered a bad year, he said.
January 11, 2019 – With the 2018-2019 flu season well underway, CDC today estimated that so far this season, between about 6 million and 7 million people have been sick with flu, up to half of those people have sought medical care for their illness, and between 69,000 and 84,000 people have been hospitalized from flu. CDC expects flu activity to continue for weeks and continues to recommend flu vaccination and appropriate use of antiviral medications.
Look at the dates of the articles you linked. Some are over a year and a half old. The CDC revised the number down since then.
Here’s an archived page where they show the old number and give an update with the new number (61,000) -
Archived: The content of this page has be archived for historical purposes. The updated preliminary burden estimates for the 2017-2018 season have been update and are available online. The updated preliminary overall burden of influenza for the 2017-2018 season was an estimated 45 million influenza illnesses, 20 million influenza-associated medical visits, 800,000 influenza-related hospitalizations, and 61,000 influenza-associated deaths.
Yes, someone has played with the numbers since, no question about that. Kinda the point.
