If the Supreme Court overturns this… will they be able to do so by rejecting that finding of fact or will they determine the “Card Says Moops” argument that the President is not an officer of the United States?
Or will they claim that the States do not have the authority to determine their own elections?
If anyone who was in CHAZ ran for a political office it would be an interesting argument to make against them. But I think that it is apples and oranges given that Trump was using the power of the office to attempt to overturn the election that he knew that he had lost.
Trump wasn’t at the riot.
No double standards allowed.
It was done on his behalf because he lied to his supporters for months and did nothing for hours to stop it.
Let’s not pretend that he had nothing to do with what happened on Jan 6
Which of those things did democrats NOT do concerning the Seattle and Portland riots?
I am not focusing in on the riot but the actions that Trump took to attempt to overturn the result of the election that he knew that he had lost. The riot was the result of those actions.
Nice try.
You’re argued into a corner you can’t defend and know it.
How so? The actions that Trump took to overturn the election are the real crime. Everyone focuses in on the riot… but that was the result of his actions… not the plan.
His plan was to create so much chaos and confusion that the Vice President would unilaterally reject electors and open up the process to Parliamentary ■■■■■■■ using fake electors. If that was successful… on Jan 7 the country would have been lit on fire.
He is UnAmerican Scum and history will remember him as such.
I do hold him accountable for Making America Great Again during his one term, because he did more for the American people then the last 5 presidents combined. He is not a creature of the DC Swamp and that is why he is viciously attacked by leftist and commie Dems, media, RINO’s and activist judges, they don’t want him anywhere near their den of corruption and debauchery. Yeah thanks Joe for bringing decency back 
into DC as nothing says morality like trannies exposing their faux bosom on the WH lawn, and making gay porn flicks in the Capitol building and cocaine in WH. Disgusting behavior is what passes for decency with Democrats these days.
Our eyes see exactly what is happening to President Trump, it’s a banana republic, third world political witch hunt the likes this country has never seen since the days of post Civil War when southern states tried to remove Abraham Lincoln from the ballot, so President Trump is in good company. 
MAGA!!
It’s certainly not clear, at this point.
They could theoretically overturn the findings of fact - but the legal standard to do so is exceedingly high.
Did you really just use the phrase “would have been lit on fire” when we were comparing J6 to the liberal riots?
News flash. Your sides actual coups and insurrections literally DID light the country on fire.
So let’s go ahead and play this game out. Trumps guilty of insurrection by proxy. We lose Trump of the ballot. Fine. Portland and Seattle were also insurrections by these definitions, and any democrats that spoke well of them or encouraged them are guilty of the same.
We lose Trump. Fine. You lose basically your entire party off the ballot. Let’s play! I’ll make that trade all day long.
My God…how far have you fallen. Sad…
Just repeat a lie untill it becomes ‘the fact’. Typical Left manuver.
If Trump and his allies in Congress were successful on Jan 6 of undermining the will of the the popular and electoral majority through Parliamentary ■■■■■■■■ what do you think Jan 7 would have looked like?
When? Equating the 2020 riots to a PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES USING THE POWER OF THE OFFICE TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION THAT HE KNEW HE LOST is absolutely insane.
That could be tried. If any Democrat did indeed try to overturn the government of Portland or Seattle… I think that a good case could be made that they should not be allowed into power.
But you see…. That didn’t happen.
It only makes sense if you try to squint and make the two things the same.
It isn’t the same.
Random people rioting and the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES USING THE POWER OF HIS OFFICE IN AN ATTEMPT TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION THAT HE KNEW THAT HE LOST are not the same thing.
Lol at the attempt to paint people actually declaring themselves independent from government rule and attack government buildings, and having liberal politicians support and defend those actions as “random people rioting” and “what fires?”
Baghdad Bob is that you?
I have also said I don’t think the SCOTUS will have the cajones to keep him off the ballot, it’s all just too strange. But on its merit and by the law, Trump did the things folks are accusing him of and by doing them, he disqualified himself from seeking future office. I just don’t think it will stick, there is a presiding sentiment to “let the voters decide”, despite the fact Trump could care less about the voters since he actively tried to overthrow the will of the electorate last election.
But we should be better than him, I get that. And the disappointment is mutual, Conan. Seeing folks embrace a guy as sleazy as him and make excuses for his terrible behavior is really a bummer. Winning and beating Democrats shouldn’t validate putting someone like him in office, he is a bad dude.
As I have said… of people who did the CHAZ thing ran for office… I could see an argument as to why they should not hold office. I don’t see it as a 14th amendment thing since they were not trying to illegally replace the government of the United States… but I don’t see why they should hold office and I wouldn’t vote for them or support them.
It is a pretty deep well you have to go to cover for the instance of a PRESIDENT USING THE POWER OF HIS OFFICE IN AN ATTEMPT TO OVERTURN THE RESULT OF THE ELECTION THAT HE KNEW HE HAD LOST.
Imagine Joe using the exact same levers of federal power to keep Donald from taking Presidential office from an election he won. Just imagine that.
Minus the protest we don’t have to imagine. It’s every election a Republican wins.
(Time to go to work irl)
I thought insurrection was whatever some totally partisan court or other state organization decided it to be, as long as they had whatever process that partisan organization decided was due.
