And they don’t create law by arbitrarily defining terms.

Rodeo:
SpadeMarlowe:
To have one world order you have to cut and chop the global supperpowers to peaces. Obama him self said America has to be cut down to size.
There it was from the horses mouth.The fundamental transformation of America…courtesy of democrat icon barrack Hussein Obama…
Still!
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That’s true and you know it. It’s not a secret.

And yet the border was more secure under him than it was after the admin that followed him. Anyway Obama hate thread is that way
Come on man.

SpadeMarlowe:
Amen…noone can say it better.
The democrat party in America today is the single greatest threat we face to our freedom.
Full stop.
As run by critprogs. I agree.

SpadeMarlowe:
Global distribution of wealth and One World Government.
THAT is the reason.
Reason why USSR was dismantled, USA is nextThis has to be the silliest thing I have ever read on this forum. The complete ignorance of history is mind boggling
“History” is less relevant everyday.

SpadeMarlowe:
FreeAndClear:
And yet the border was more secure under him than it was after the admin that followed him. Anyway Obama hate thread is that way
Sure…he was the one that started separating mothers and children kept in cages.
Then the Left assigned THAT fiasco to Trump and blamed HIM.
You see…not everyone in America is blind and stupid.
People CAN see what’s going on.Blah Blah blah. It was more secure than it was under President Trump. Just like the left you guys make the mistake that your biases and your interpretations of events is how everyone should see them. And then accuse others of pretending to be the smartest guys in every room
Based on what?

I agree with all of that.
Now I’m happy. When two of the greatest legal minds the world has ever known agree, it’s good.
Merry Christmas.
Based on record encounters under president Trump.
The same numbers that are used today.

Oryx:
Samm:
C’mon man. Bluster is filed under “Freedom of Speech.” He did not file suit to remove anyone from any ballot. Law Suits matter, not bluster.
Trump undertook a multi-year campaign to disqualify Obama from running based on a lie. He didn’t file a lawsuit because he had literally nothing and would have been laughed out of court.
There is no time limit on bluster … particularly from Trump.
I’m not trying to justify this judicial decision–I’m already on record saying I think it’s a mistake. I’m just enjoying the karma and Trump’s hypocritical crying about it.

FreeAndClear:
I agree with all of that.
Now I’m happy. When two of the greatest legal minds the world has ever known agree, it’s good.
Merry Christmas.
. Merry Christmas

Based on record encounters under president Trump.
The same numbers that are used today.
That metric doesn’t support that claim. Of course it was used under Trump as well. And “secure” is a feeling, not a fact.
The thing about the illegals is where they come from is critically important. Mexicans are one thing. Everybody else is a different thing.
And what is being done after the encounter is immensely important.
Remember “catch and release.”
Dispostion is the bailey. Encounters is the motte.
Politically, bumping Trump out of the race is a strategic blunder on the scale of… probably ignoring intel right before Pearl Harbor.
Or maybe getting involved in the Ukraine.
Great discussion, thanks.
@Oryx , thanks for playing the affirmative.

I’m just enjoying the karma and Trump’s hypocritical crying about it.
But…….But……Trump…….
Boy, he sure does live rent free in your grape doesn’t he?
What, do you goomba’s wake up every morning with the thought,”how can I hate on Trump today?”
Really rather sad.
I feel sorry for and pity you guys.

But…….But……Trump…….
This thread is about Trump. His name is literally in the thread title.

Steel-W0LF:
Jezcoe:
I don’t think that Trump should be removed from the ballot… that is a different argument than saying that a State cannot enforce the 14th amendment.
So what about immigration laws? Can states enforce those?
Why do you think that they can?
Unlike elections… States do not have the power over the international border.
They don’t have the power to declare crimes occurred in other states either.

Insanity is the lib idea of saving our democracy, by removing the leading candidate from the ballot.
I can just picture Vladimir Putin somewhere watching all this and saying “Well done Comrads! Well done indeed!”

So then Biden keeps the border open
The border is NOT open.

Jezcoe:
Steel-W0LF:
Jezcoe:
I don’t think that Trump should be removed from the ballot… that is a different argument than saying that a State cannot enforce the 14th amendment.
So what about immigration laws? Can states enforce those?
Why do you think that they can?
Unlike elections… States do not have the power over the international border.
They don’t help r the power to declare crimes occurred in other states either.
What the what now?