Breaking: The FBI thwarted a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

zantax · 2020-10-14T02:19:20.408Z

DOLOOP:

DougBH:

zantax:

sikofit:

DougBH:

No I have not. I’ve been blasting Democrats for not coming down on the rioters and looters, and especially in Portland where instead of asking for help they asked the feds to leave.

Biden has condemned the violence multiple times. On the flipside there was a plan to kidnap and eventually assassinate the Governor of Michagan and Trump’s response is to attack the Governor

Actually, his response was to have the FBI arrest them.

Governor Whitmer’s response to being saved by the FBI was to attack Trump for political gain. Any verbal attacking of her after that was well deserved. What a disgusting woman.

Liberate Michigan!

Yeah, I read that tweet as well, oddly enough it never occurred to me to hatch a plot to kidnap a governor in response, likely because, I am sane.

sikofit · 2020-10-14T14:08:50.642Z

DougBH:

sikofit:

The world’s worst outbreak isn’t exactly a success

Trump is responsible for the worldwide pandemic?

Did you even read the post you responded to?

DougBH · 2020-10-14T15:28:45.725Z

Oh. I get it. You are claiming that the US had the worlds worst outbreak of coronavirus. The correct response would have been, no, that is false.

sikofit · 2020-10-14T15:33:11.802Z

DougBH:

Oh. I get it. You are claiming that the US had the worlds worst outbreak of coronavirus. The correct response would have been, no, that is false.

We have 5% of the world’s population and 20% of the world’s cases and deaths. We failed miserably

DougBH · 2020-10-14T15:40:00.325Z

sikofit:

DougBH:

Oh. I get it. You are claiming that the US had the worlds worst outbreak of coronavirus. The correct response would have been, no, that is false.

We have 5% of the world’s population and 20% of the world’s cases and deaths. We failed miserably

The claim was that we had the world’s worst outbreak.
As previously covered, other major countries had higher or near equivalent outbreaks…with death tolls in UK, Spain, France and Italy being at or near the same…many now into a second wave.
That 5% counts like central Africa, India and China (the originator) in the numbers where conditions and measurement is completely different.
Do you believe the numbers coming from China? And if you do, do you want us sealing people in rooms as a measure of quarantieen
Dems when they want some social program passed always compare how it is in the US with other 1st world advanced economies and societies. Now, they want to compare us to Africa and India because they haven’;t (yet) recorded this virus as here.

NebraskaFootball · 2020-10-14T15:41:42.492Z

DougBH:

Oh. I get it. You are claiming that the US had the worlds worst outbreak of coronavirus. The correct response would have been, no, that is false.

We sure as heck aren’t doing great.

The 'Rona Truth in One Thread

More truth.

Death Rates In The U.S. During Pandemic Far Higher Than Other Countries : Shots - Health News : NPR

A new report in the Journal of the American Medical Association finds that over the last 5 months per capita deaths in the U.S., both from COVID-19 and other causes have been far greater than in 18 other high-income countries.

Complete and total failure from the Chief Executive of this country.

DougBH · 2020-10-14T15:57:39.426Z

A summary of the report.

jamanetwork.com

COVID-19 and Excess All-Cause Mortality in the US and 18 Comparison Countries

This Viewpoint compares the COVID-19 per capita overall and excess mortality rates in the US vs that of 18 OECD countries and the timing of any increases in excess mortality between February and September 2020.

Yes, we had a higher rate than many but not all advanced countries. I love the way you concentrate on the last 5 months, as opposed to total mortality. Some of those who had lower rates in the last 5 months are now into second waves.

And I saw nothing about a failure of the Chief Executive of this country. More like a few high case states have brought us where we are, if you want to lay it on politicians.

sikofit · 2020-10-14T15:59:31.791Z

DougBH:

Some of those who had lower rates in the last 5 months are now into second waves.

And so are we. Hooray Trump!!!

DougBH · 2020-10-14T16:02:05.523Z

sikofit:

DougBH:

Some of those who had lower rates in the last 5 months are now into second waves.

And so are we. Hooray Trump!!!

Waves will continue until herd immunity is reached and/or an effective vaccine is developed and distributed.
That will be true with Trump or Biden. It will make no difference which.

tzu · 2020-10-14T16:02:52.208Z

Coronaviruses. Do. Not. Confer. Broad. Or. Lasting. Immunity.

DougBH · 2020-10-14T16:06:04.155Z

tzu:

Coronaviruses. Do. Not. Confer. Broad. Or. Lasting. Immunity.

In. That. Case. We. Should. Stop. All. Lockdowns. and Spoecial. Measures. Now. Because. Better. The. Virus. Than. No. Economy. Ever…And. We. Starve.

tzu · 2020-10-14T16:07:44.588Z

Nope. It can be suppressed. Not even with broad lockdowns, unless leaders are stump dumb and let it rage.

Just backtrace the clusters and quarantine.

DougBH · 2020-10-14T16:08:46.785Z

tzu:

Nope. It can be suppressed. Not even with broad lockdowns, unless leaders are stump dumb and let it rage.

Just backtrace the clusters and quarantine.

Yeah. Like that is why we no longer have the Flu virus.
But this is the wrong thread, BTW, so I am dropping out here.

tzu · 2020-10-14T16:09:31.142Z

Not the same kind of virus or distribution pattern.

sikofit · 2020-10-14T16:09:57.402Z

tzu:

Coronaviruses. Do. Not. Confer. Broad. Or. Lasting. Immunity.

For some that seems to be a foreign concept

sikofit · 2020-10-14T16:11:01.114Z

DougBH:

But this is the wrong thread, BTW, so I am dropping out here.

Yeah, that’s why you’re dropping out.

NebraskaFootball · 2020-10-14T16:15:09.174Z

DougBH:

A summary of the report.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2771841

Yes, we had a higher rate than many but not all advanced countries. I love the way you concentrate on the last 5 months, as opposed to total mortality. Some of those who had lower rates in the last 5 months are now into second waves.

And I saw nothing about a failure of the Chief Executive of this country. More like a few high case states have brought us where we are, if you want to lay it on politicians.

We are just knocking it out of the park, aren’t we. Good grief man. This has been an abysmal failure by every single known metric. The Covidian-in-Chief failed.

DougBH · 2020-10-14T16:55:57.635Z

Very well, though I don’t see what this has to do with the FBI thwarting a plot.

No. Australia and Canada did much better. They are a different demographic and spread out with few people over huge distances. I have seen Democrats excuse NY because it has a huge city crowded together, yet want to compare the nation as a whole to Australia and blame Trump.
You seem to believe that the big differences have to do with politicians in Belgium, Spain and UK, which did worse than we did (slightly). Yet when you try to point to a reason its stuff like “He said that 15 people had it and that will be over soon”. News…CDC continued to plan for equipment. News…Cuomo, in the worst handled state of all, said not one person died for lack of equipment.
The fact is a virus is not a “the buck stops here” sort of thing because it spreads without recognition of jurisdictions.
The right major steps were made at the Federal level. Information was made available to the states early on about distancing by the CDC.
And I suggest there are still better threads to cover this than “The FBI Thwarted a Plot…”

sikofit · 2020-10-14T16:57:13.388Z

DougBH:

The right major steps were made at the Federal level

That is simply not true. We ■■■■■■ up bigtime

Weedhopper · 2020-10-14T17:06:08.540Z

What were these commie bootlickers going to do with her party?

She’s not worth anything, not after murdering senior citizens with covid.