Biden wants to give out $450000 per person for separated illegal migrants

[FloridaYankee]

@SixFoot

We are responsible for kicking their illegal asses out of the country and nothing more

Preferable perhaps, but that’s not what’s happening under asylum law and whatever the hell else. THEREFORE, we are adjudicating them and everything I’ve said is accurate under the law.

[Hexenbiest]

They could have stopped at Mexico they choose to go further for the social payouts, after word goes out those bozo’s in office give out 450k it will be an invasion which should go to progressive houses who want this not the ones who oppose this ridiculous invasion that every other first world country has stopped after the EU migrant crisis.

[SixFoot]

@FloridaYankee

@SixFoot

We are responsible for kicking their illegal asses out of the country and nothing more

Preferable perhaps, but that’s not what’s happening under asylum law and whatever the hell else. THEREFORE, we are adjudicating them and everything I’ve said is accurate under the law.

Cool, so compensate them with a ticket back home and the knowledge that they can rot in prison if they come back. We don’t owe them a free house and two brand new cars. In fact, we don’t owe them anything.

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

The negligent and extended separations with little to no means of reconnecting are cruel and unusual. We hold both parties in question and it becomes our responsibility that both are treated humanely. By about any standard in the world, taking children from parents is among the most cruel punishments that can be inflicted.

In your opinion.

Me and the entire western world…

Not law.

The government is prohibited, that’s the entire point of our system of government. There doesn’t need to be a specific law for a finding that they violated someone’s rights.

The right must exist.

[FloridaYankee]

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

The negligent and extended separations with little to no means of reconnecting are cruel and unusual. We hold both parties in question and it becomes our responsibility that both are treated humanely. By about any standard in the world, taking children from parents is among the most cruel punishments that can be inflicted.

In your opinion.

Me and the entire western world…

Not law.

The government is prohibited, that’s the entire point of our system of government. There doesn’t need to be a specific law for a finding that they violated someone’s rights.

The right must exist.

Eighth amendment spells it out and the law I cited earlier codifies it.

42 U.S. Code § 2000dd

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

The negligent and extended separations with little to no means of reconnecting are cruel and unusual. We hold both parties in question and it becomes our responsibility that both are treated humanely. By about any standard in the world, taking children from parents is among the most cruel punishments that can be inflicted.

In your opinion.

Me and the entire western world…

Not law.

The government is prohibited, that’s the entire point of our system of government. There doesn’t need to be a specific law for a finding that they violated someone’s rights.

The right must exist.

Eighth amendment spells it out and the law I cited earlier codifies it.

42 U.S. Code § 2000dd

No, it doesn’t. There is no right to “family integrity” in detention.

What would you say if that 7 year-old girl was raped by a 12 year-old boy who was in with his mother?

[FloridaYankee]

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

The negligent and extended separations with little to no means of reconnecting are cruel and unusual. We hold both parties in question and it becomes our responsibility that both are treated humanely. By about any standard in the world, taking children from parents is among the most cruel punishments that can be inflicted.

In your opinion.

Me and the entire western world…

Not law.

The government is prohibited, that’s the entire point of our system of government. There doesn’t need to be a specific law for a finding that they violated someone’s rights.

The right must exist.

Eighth amendment spells it out and the law I cited earlier codifies it.

42 U.S. Code § 2000dd

No, it doesn’t. There is no right to “family integrity” in detention.

What would you say if that 7 year-old girl was raped by a 12 year-old boy who was in with his mother?

I said nothing about that.

Cruel and unusual.

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

I said nothing about that.

Cruel and unusual.

Separation in detention is neither.

[WuWei]

Is it cruel to separate a 7 year-old child by forcing them to board a school bus every morning?

[DisturbedGuy]

@WuWei

Is it cruel to separate a 7 year-old child by forcing them to board a school bus every morning?

Does the school return them home everyday? Your comparison isn’t even in the same galaxy as what happened.

[WuWei]

@DisturbedGuy

@WuWei

Is it cruel to separate a 7 year-old child by forcing them to board a school bus every morning?

Does the school return them home everyday? Your comparison isn’t even in the same galaxy as what happened.

Are they separated for 8 hours every day?

[DisturbedGuy]

@WuWei

@DisturbedGuy

@WuWei

Is it cruel to separate a 7 year-old child by forcing them to board a school bus every morning?

Does the school return them home everyday? Your comparison isn’t even in the same galaxy as what happened.

Are they separated for 8 hours every day?

Come on man! Not even close or worth discussing. I showed you directly where they had ZERO plan to reunite these families. Still no one in this thread has acknowledged the Trump administration’s policy was wrong.

[DisturbedGuy]

@DisturbedGuy

@WuWei

@DisturbedGuy

@WuWei

Is it cruel to separate a 7 year-old child by forcing them to board a school bus every morning?

Does the school return them home everyday? Your comparison isn’t even in the same galaxy as what happened.

Are they separated for 8 hours every day?

Come on man! Not even close or worth discussing. I showed you directly where they had ZERO plan to reunite these families. Still no one in this thread has acknowledged the Trump administration’s policy was wrong.

Let’s here your solution to the border crisis. Machine gun turrets are off the table. I’ll have the discussion with you.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@FloridaYankee

@SixFoot

We are responsible for kicking their illegal asses out of the country and nothing more
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Preferable perhaps, but that’s not what’s happening under asylum law and whatever the hell else. THEREFORE, we are adjudicating them and everything I’ve said is accurate under the law.

Cool, so compensate them with a ticket back home and the knowledge that they can rot in prison if they come back. We don’t owe them a free house and two brand new cars. In fact, we don’t owe them anything.

Well as Obama said, “you didn’t build that.” America doesn’t belong to the US taxpayers, it belongs to the world.

[SixFoot]

A good kick in the ass is what they need. lol

[Eagle-Keeper]

@DisturbedGuy

@WuWei

Are they separated for 8 hours every day?
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Come on man! Not even close or worth discussing. I showed you directly where they had ZERO plan to reunite these families. Still no one in this thread has acknowledged the Trump administration’s policy was wrong.

Let’s here your solution to the border crisis. Machine gun turrets are off the table. I’ll have the discussion with you.

I don’t think Sneaky has argued against this yet:

An immigration policy those on the Left should support

So as far as we can tell there’s no end in sight for everyone in the world seeking asylum to make the dangerous and arduous trek to our border. The truly ironic thing about this is that both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris said not to come this way. Nonetheless here they still come? Furthermore, it is also the case that few if any want to go anywhere else: The only proposal I’ve heard from those on the Left is to “invest” in those countries that people are fleeing from. The problem with this appr…

[WuWei]

1. Act of Congress declaring there are no asylum conditions in Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador or Haiti.

2. Act of Congress clearly defining that asylum only applies to those individuals oppressed by their government because of certain reasons. It already is, but apparently it isn’t clear.

3. Remain in Mexico.

See what that does. I have more.

[WuWei]

@DisturbedGuy

Come on man! Not even close or worth discussing. I showed you directly where they had ZERO plan to reunite these families. Still no one in this thread has acknowledged the Trump administration’s policy was wrong.

Yes or no?

[DisturbedGuy]

@WuWei

1. Act of Congress declaring there are no asylum conditions in Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador or Haiti.

2. Act of Congress clearly defining that asylum only applies to those individuals oppressed by their government because of certain reasons. It already is, but apparently it isn’t clear.

3. Remain in Mexico.

See what that does. I have more.

I don’t see the point of cutting off access to specific countries. If conditions In these countries were improved the population wouldn’t be leaving in droves.

I’m OK with remain in Mexico. We are in the process of building a facility to make at least some of that happen.

I have a question for you. You discover your basement is flooding. Do you spend all of your money and resources in bailing the water out of your basement?

[FloridaYankee]

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

I said nothing about that.

Cruel and unusual.

Separation in detention is neither.

It is when they lose the kids. That is the biggest issue here, and the driving force behind this entire discussion. It is inexcusable and unacceptable.