Arms Vaults in Schools?

[Samm]

@komobu

This is what a gun safe looks like. I doubt it will be confused with crayon storage.

Many Libs are clearly as uninformed about gun storage furnishings as they are about guns.

[Samm]

@komobu

@tnt

That might work with the panic button idea. So no one can get in, but people can get out.

That often adds to the problem. People dont want to be locked in a room and may flee out of overwhelming fear even though they were safe where they were at. . Mass pandemonium hinders the police and adds to the shooters favor.

Can you cite any instance where it added to the problem?

[Samm]

@Nemesis

@WuWei

@Nemesis

So basically install mini armories in every school.

Axe and fire extinguisher. In case of fire break glass.

What’s the problem?

Not very secure is it.

What do you mean by “it”? What existing “mini armory” in a school is unsecure?

[Samm]

@TommyLucchese

@komobu

A sheriff in North Carolina wants to put safes in six schools that will store AR-15s, Breaching Equipment, and anything else that may be needed to put down an armed intruder.

He says if there is a armed intruder in one of his schools, he doesnt want his officers to have to go back to their vehicles, or wait on anything. He wants everything they need to be on site in the safe so they are completely ready to engage and shut down the threat.

Seems like this guy is on to something.

I can’t even imagine how quickly a safe full of guns and rabbit tools and ■■■■ would have been stolen in my high school. But it would have been quick.

Good one Tommy

[Samm]

@GWH

They should fit the first run of these with a rubber bullet pack that explodes upon opening the vault. Give the officers AR’s and breech equipment. Then when a shooter tries to break into one, some Wiley Coyote ■■■■ happens to him.

Drop a safe on him?

[Samm]

@tnt

@GWH

A bolt in the wall that slides into a hole in the door would suffice. It could be behind glass, wired like a fire alarm to prevent tampering.

A least once a year someone in our HS broke the glass and set of the fire alarm.

So was that a reason to eliminate the fire alarms from the building?

[Samm]

@komobu

There would be no legitimate reason for the school to have access to the Arms safe. I would be very surprised if anyone in the school system actually had access to it. **

I would predict the person that would have access to be the watch commander of the emergency response center. That person would forward on the access credentials to the responding officers.

Wouldn’t he have his own gun and bring it with him when he came to the school?

[LeroyBrown]

@Samm

Wouldn’t he have his own gun and bring it with him when he came to the school?

They do. They also come with a taser, cuffs, pepper spray, and whatever else is easily carried on their person. Most of them are not patrolling the halls toting whatever their long gun or rifle is around. In addition to thier duties of keeping the school safe, most go out of their way to create positive experiences with the kids, joining them for lunch, or playing a quick game.

The long guns and or rifles are kept locked in a safe in the office they are provided. There is no possibility of a child accidently being given the key to the SRO’s office, much less the key to the gun safe. The SRO is required to constantly train ensure they can quickly make it from any point on campus to the safe, arm themselves, and get to where the shooter is. They also coordinate training with the rest of the force, and sometimes school staff, on what to if there is an active shooter.

Of course, this is for the county I reside in in Florida, so what happens in your neck of the woods may vary.

[Samm]

What is this thing I keep reading in this thread … “key to the gun safe”?

[tnt]

Of course not. But setting off a fire alarm and stealing a rifle aren’t the same thing, are they?

[Samm]

The comparison was between a fire alarm and a panic button, not a gun safe.

[tnt]

@Samm

The comparison was between a fire alarm and a panic button, not a gun safe.

My bad.

Big difference between setting off an alarm and locking everyone in a room though, isn’t there?

Again, as I said in the thread earlier, I’m not saying it shouldn’t be done, just needs some thought. I don’t love the idea of locking people in a room.

[bigtwnvin]

Nope. This is the sheriffs department in NC. Your school district might take exception to the consideration. They’re already doing this in St. Martins County Fl. Here in PBC it’s been rejected.
But consider this, a mook with delusions of grandeur wants to kill students in a school but is intercepted by a Resource Officer armed with a high cap magazine fed semi auto rifle and a sidearm. Game changer.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Yeah, THAT’s what’s gonna the police actually useful in a situation like that.

[zantax]

@Samm

What is this thing I keep reading in this thread … “key to the gun safe”?

Some time travelers just got here I guess.

[Samm]

@tnt

@Samm

The comparison was between a fire alarm and a panic button, not a gun safe.

My bad.

Big difference between setting off an alarm and locking everyone in a room though, isn’t there?

Again, as I said in the thread earlier, I’m not saying it shouldn’t be done, just needs some thought. I don’t love the idea of locking people in a room.

I have no idea what you mean by that.

[tnt]

@Samm

I have no idea what you mean by that.

the panic button locks the doors to all the rooms. that was the idea floated.

[Samm]

@tnt

@Samm

I have no idea what you mean by that.

the panic button locks the doors to all the rooms. that was the idea floated.

Yes. Why is that a problem? Egress can then be made through the windows (if the schools are built to code.)

[tnt]

@Samm

Yes. Why is that a problem? Egress can then be made through the windows (if the schools are built to code.)

Like I said - maybe. Has to be carefully thought out and worked on.

[Samm]

Well, one thing is sure, what they are doing now isn’t working.