Are Californians unfamiliar with the first ammendment?

All government officials take a oath to defend the Constitution and to protect the life and health of their constituents. I would hope that in these cases these leaders are following the advice of their health officials. Yes, there is a fine line. But if their actions save lives I believe it is worth it.

I’d like to see such an oath please.

Of course we are.

Chuckle. Omg it’s fire in a porn theatre!

You really need to do research.

Are you thinking for yourself or deciding for the collective? Does your governor think you are too stupid to think for yourself?

Don’t think that’s too unreasonable. Oath of office (federal) generally includes “support and defend the Constitution of the United States.” The preamble of said Constitution includes “promote the general Welfare.” Article 1 Sec 8 also includes “provide for the common Defence and general Welfare.”

Hard to think “general Welfare” doesn’t include the life and health of “We the People of the United States.” Can you fulfill your oath to support the Constitution without promoting and providing the general welfare?

Or you think elected officials have no responsibility to the health and lives of the citizens they represent. I wouldn’t be shocked if that’s the case.

I’ll wait.

It maybe more like they think only of themselves?

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OATH OF OFFICE
For Health Authorities in the State of Texas
I, _____________________________________________, do solemnly swear (or affirm), that I will faithfully execute the duties of the office of Health Authority of the State of Texas and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States and of this State, so help me God.

How about a governor? You know, the guys issuing the orders?

“Health Authorities” :rofl: You said all. Nice try though.

Oh and Federalist 83.

What do you define as “a case of Covad” (sic)?

A person who tests positive for the virus.

Do you want us to reach herd immunity? Or are you for locking down until a safe vaccine is available sometime in 2022?

I heard one expert say that he believes that we might reach herd immunity in some regions of the country but he was skeptical that it would reach country wide status. People like me who are older and have health conditions will likely keep minimum time in public. And from what I am hearing a vaccine timeline is mid-year 2021. I think that we are going to hit a major intersection in the next couple of weeks. If there are large outbreaks from the crowds that gathered over the weekend, perhaps some folks will believe that the mask/social distance deal is valid. But it is certainly troubling to hear that some Governors are suppressing testing numbers.

So, do you favour a lockdown until mid-2021 over more nonlethal cases now? And if there are no large outbreaks after the weekend, what will you conclude?

A lock down will ruin our economy, so no. And if there are no large outbreaks I will conclude that those folks were really lucky. There is still a lot to learn about this virus.

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I’m referring to those who think it’s okay to violate the First Amendment Rights of Americans because they believe that exercising those rights puts them in danger.

As much as your concern regarding mass gatherings exacerbating spread of this disease is rational, you cannot simply say the rights guaranteed by the Constitution no longer apply. The Constitution cannot be switched off and on. You can make your case and try to convince the people that they should forgo their rights for the common good, but you can’t just suspend the rights by force.

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We will never reach herd immunity without a vaccine. And in the meantime, people have to survive and for the county to survive, so does the economy. A perpetual prolonged lockdown will kill us all.

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