But you said in your OP that he would abolish ICE and raise the national minimum wage, which as Governor, he has zero authority to do.
I am on the fiscal conservative side of the spectrum, but I cannot logically endorse anything mentioned in the OP.
The liberal/progressive argument has been higher rate on middle and upper class Americans in exchange for more government services for all. That means medicare for all, tuition-free college, tuition-free child care, and more PTO time for workers.
Liberal/Progressives are not really arguing for “free” anything. All of it comes packaged through taxes. When they use the word “free”, they don’t actually mean “without charge”. They mean is that you don’t have to pay it as you go. For example, when I use the roads to get to work or run in the public parks, I pay for those services ahead of time. I don’t drop a quarter every time I turn onto Monroe Avenue or go hiking through Mendon Ponds park.
If the OP is worried about the rich paying for the lower class America’s health-care and welfare services, then I suppose he also supports getting rid of medicare, medicad, social security, and favors only regressive taxes. We’re already living in a system where the wealthy pays the majority of the taxes in our society and the lower class pays peanuts.
Also, the OP seems to be a Trump supporter, and Trump himself supports higher taxes on the wealthy, subsidies for lower class workers, and guarantee health-care for all.
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You weren’t supposed to take Trump seriously when he said he supports those things. He was just saying that because he knew it would get him votes.
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Running from a problem does not solve it.
"When a free people submit to oppressive acts, passed in violation of their constitution, for a single day, they have thrown down the palladium of their liberty. Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud. It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism __ the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted is the beginning of the end of the nations ruin." ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787
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The unavoidable truth is, the Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ and Andrew Gillum’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.
Socialism is intentionally designed to benefit politicians who confiscate and then redistribute “free government cheese”, while it enslaves those who produce the cheese.
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The liberty to succeed or fail at one’s own hand is a socialist’s nightmare and not the American Dream
You cannot confiscate something a person does not have.
Amrrican cheese is the best.
So we’re not steadily working?
Earning money?
Choosing health insurance from the plans we’re offered? Taxes we’re forced to pay from earning money on the job don’t go to pay for such entitlements as food stamps? Or our own Medicare once we hir 65?
You’re saying we’re not working to support ourselves & families? The ‘reforms’ of the ACA cost employers to the point some were forced to offer their employees plans with more out of pocket expenses to support a minority of people who were uninsured.
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As far as “guaranteed health care”, those who were uninsured already have hospitals that accept uninsured, Planned Parenthood & public health clinics, as well as various free clinics.
“Medicare for all”, actually exists. Everyone who works pays into Medicare to collect on it when they hit 65. It is also for those who become disabled.
“More pro for workers”. Many government jobs offer a generous amount of paid time off. Many private jobs, the more years served, the more time off is accrued.
“The liberal/progressive argument has been higher rate on middle and upper income Americans…”
Hey, great, let’s penalize those who are producing, many of whom are in their income bracket largely because of sound decisions like not parenting out of wedlock or when they cannot afford to do so & taking advantage of any and all opportunities for education.
“Tuition free college”. In some states, noticeably Tennessee and Oklahoma, tuition at two year colleges is waived for those with minimum GPA, test scores & minimum number of volunteer service in their community. Maybe more states should follow their example.
Re entitlements the O P may or may not support getting rid of, I wouldn’t blame him if he wanted to do away with Medicaid. Might eliminate some fraud, and it pays providers less than private insurance.
I’m with the O P on this one. OTOH, maybe if Andrew Gillum gets elected in Florida, maybe it would send more whiny, childlike individuals who think everything should be free in states like Massachusetts packing to Florida.
Hmm, maybe his supporters are onto something here
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“Romneycare” actually didn’t work so bad in Massachusetts. The Affordable Care Act has been nothing like it & continues to remain a disaster.
“Universal health care in Florida”
Having once lived in that state for ablong time, physicians make every effort to volunteer in their communities to provide for those indigent & uninsured.
Efforts in Tampa included Judeo Christian, Elder Med & the Red Crescent Health Clinic, all of whom opened their doors to all who needed a doctor—not just indigent elderly, Muslims, Jews or Christians.
Dentists volunteer their time at some of these organizations. There are hospitals like Tampa General that accept the uninsured. There is Medicaid, although it is almost assuredly not issued to able bodied adults with no children.
Andrew Gillum is seeking to fill a need that isn’t there with “universal health care”.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul, looks like that’s his idea.
What exactly is he saying about the jobs people in Florida have? Having lived & worked in that state for over 20 years, my salary always managed to get me nice apartments as well as to pay my bills & do a few fun things.
Sounds like he’s looking to further penalize those who’ve worked to get to their economic position. Although I have to admit, if his win got more whiny, entitlement minded people in states like Massachusetts to move there, maybe it’s not such a bad thing.
Some V A hospitals & outpatient clinics aren’t so bad, like San Diego & Atlanta.
Others, well, I’d advise that vet to seek care in a public health clinic before heading there.
. They can be the equivalent of receiving no care in spite of good intentions.
They’re already getting subsidized health care in the form of public health clinics & hospitals that accept the uninsured as well as Planned Parenthood.
Seems what’s being demanded is unlimited choices. If I have a Toyota sized budget, should it get me a BMW?
The choices they have don’t necessarily provide poor quality care any more than a private provider provides superior quality services.
It should be noted again, that I don’t endorse their ideas. Just pointing out that they are not asking for “freebies”. They are simply asking for more taxes in exchange for more government services.
I don’t buy that argument at all. We already have a system in place which the wealthy pay the lion share of the taxes, and thus fund the social services out there. In other words, we already have a system where we “take” from the wealthy and “give it” to those who don’t.
Most people do not wake up one day, and say, “You know what I want to do in life? Live off of the government. I want to leave in closed in spaces and eat only cheap, unhealthy food.” The reason why many are poor is due to disability, bad parenting (parents are addicted to drugs and alcohol), or simply lacking economic finances.
To their point: we already pay for K-12 education through our taxes. Their POINT rests on the principle that we should expand K-12 education to K-14 or K-16.
With all due respect, it’s rather odd to imply that a child cannot go to college unless he/she hits a certain GPA or scores well on biased testing.
Seeing as how, the OP completely avoided addressing my points, we will never know.
Personally, I think investing in education and providing a sufficient safety net is a GOOD idea. As God – I mean Lord Trump – once said, “I don’t want to see anybody dying in the streets.”
If K-12 education is insufficient to finding a productive job in our society, then maybe we should think about expanding our public education system and make it easier for low-income Americans to afford college. I just think a more conservative model works better than the progressive model.
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Mark Stein is one of the guys who fills in for Rush. I like him.
K-12 education used to be sufficient. It is sufficient now. However, there are those who don’t see education as a benefit to succeed in life.
We also need to place much more emphasis on vocational schools. We need plumbers, carpenters, electricians and so on. You don’t need a college degree to earn a good living.
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First off, I believe your second sentence should read INsufficient.
13th and 14th grade could mean vocational training. It could mean paralegal or medical assistant or bookkeeping.
Community colleges are pretty vital to our society and we should give people at least the ability to attend those schools. Those shouldn’t be unavailable because your parents are dirt poor.
No, it is sufficient now if you take the classes and apply yourself.
No issue with that at all.
Fortunately, there is a considerable amount of aid for those who cannot afford community college, along with grants and scholarships.
Using the US dollar as the base rate, the 2017 Index showed a Big Mac in Norway to cost $5.67 (49 kroner) compared with $5.06 in the US, meaning the krone is overvalued by 12 percent.
Either you’re posting false information or your “average McDonalds meal” is four Big Macs.
