If Trump wins, he will not hold office after four years. If Trump loses, he will not hold office again. He would be too old and a two time loser.
You will be rid of Trump either way.
But Trump isn’t causing politics to change. He is the result of that change. So all the controversies you don’t like will still be here.
You give too much credit to Trump.
5 Likes
From a partisan perspective, I’m not worried at all about being rid of Trump if he loses.
Rather, I’m saying that the GOP should probably be worried about getting rid of him if he loses.
Why?
Because cannot deal with losing. He won’t accept being cast aside. He’ll despise the idea of the GOP succeeding without him. He’ll undermine whoever supplants him. He’ll hate the party for abandoning him after all he’s done.
I’m not giving advice: I’m really curious to see how it would play out. I’m not being snarky—it’s who he is.
How do you imagine the GOP pivoting away from Trump? If you have another plausible scenario that’s different, I’d be interested in seeing it. He’s transactional: what could the Republican Party give him to go away?
My admittedly biased hope is that the toxic divorce and the Republican response or dissolution could change our politics profoundly. I’d love to have political parties that share empirical reality.
1 Like
Trump is the most moderate President we’ve had.
2 Likes
both parties are fine with it. And should be. Without it there would be no minority party representation in any state. CA and NY would be all democrats, TX and FL all republicans.
2 Likes
Hogwash.
You need to start living in reality and not your made-up leftist world. Get out of your parent’s basement and actually meet some maga voters and moderate democrats. I know democrats that are not going to pull the lever for harris. They did for biden because they believed his bull.
The democrat party is going to have to kick their crazy leftist to the curb soon or they are going to only have the rich crazies and the people they can buy with government money left.
The GOP has now become the liberal party and the progs have become fascist.
3 Likes
I don’t expect the GOP to move away from maga in the future. They are going to embrace it. The democrats are going to have to worry because moderate democrats are moving toward maga and leaving the prog democrats in the dust.
2 Likes
Please define the key aspects of MAGA.
You tried mate. See all the posts above 
I learned about gerrymandering in grade school civics class. From your description, you have never been taught what the word means or what that process is .
2 Likes
It’s not a “gratuitous assertion.” Trump has said, several times, “I love the poorly educated.”
The battle between the left and right, while it had its ups and downs in intensity, was relatively normal until Obama came along … He promised to fundamentally change America, and this is what we got. And while some people refuse to see it or admit it if they do, he (and his lovely wife Michelle and others) still has his hands on the controls. How can we reverse it? You’re not going to like it. Nobody will. It’s going to get messy and there is no guarantee that we’ll come out of it intact. The big winner may be Russia or more likely, China and the USA that shined brightly for a couple hundred years will be just another chapter in history.
3 Likes
Gerrymandering is a myth. It’s banned by the US Department of Justice. Accusations of such are nothing more than a sour grapes excuse by the losing Party.
2 Likes
Simple, they can be honest. But that’s never going to happen. Both Parties love power too much.
1 Like
Sorry, but that simply is not true. The DOJ criteria for establishing House districts in States, equal numbers of people, similar geo-social values, and contiguous area, is not Gerrymandering. Gerrymandering is manipulating boundaries to put a large majority of one Party into one or two districts so that the other Party has a majority in all the other districts.
1 Like
Not when you look at fundamental common interests. Ask yourself, if you put politics completely aside, what do you want for yourself and your family? Virtually everybody has essentially the same answer.
2 Likes
That’s not true. The mix of people belonging to the two major parties are not uniformity spread throughout the state (any state.) There are always going to be districts where one or the other Party has a majority regardless of which has the majority in the state. Even in solidly blue states like Washington, Oregon and California, there are districts with Republican majorities.
Compromise is not possible because the Left views the compromise as the Rs allways giving in.
The devide will just grow no matter who wins.
It, the devide, reached the point of NO return and it will not "mellow out ".
Main reason is there is no respect between the parties any more.
After the way the Left calls Rs Nazzies and “treat to the Democracy” if you believe ANY compromise is possible you’re dreaming, my friend.
2 Likes
I am cautiously optimistic. An empire of lies is collapsing regardless of who wins.
Trust in mainstream media is at record lows, and that is especially true for young people. Media hoaxes are no longer sustainable. Doubling down on attempts to censor the truth will further erode any remaining credibilty.
https://x.com/TPostMillennial/status/1850007448083484961?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
1 Like
The reality is that conservatives and liberals want two very different countries. The notion that a certain position is “moderate” or “extreme” is subjective.
1 Like
Precisely right. Those so called well educated people cant define what a woman is
1 Like
