A true piece of garbage just won the Republican runoff primary for Georgia's 14th Congressional District

[Paul_Thomson]

Define “a Q anon believer”.

[gooddad409]

@PhilipNolan

@Safiel

Unfortunately, this shows the true danger of having isolated rural districts. A better effort should be made to weave suburban areas into rural districts as much as possible, to prevent the nomination of loons like Greene. The 14th could be easily adjusted to pick up more moderate Republican voters from the Atlanta suburbs and break up and outnumber rural voters.

Let me see if I’m reading this right, You want to gerrymander that district in order to prevent a politician you don’t agree with from being elected so that one that is less “controversial” can replace them? More importantly, why do you care? Do you live in that district? Or do you think the voters in that district are to ignorant to pick the “right” candidate?

Wonder where the OP’s concern for the Squad is?

They are about as radical as it gets.

[highroller]

They don’t belong to the party he votes for. He’s concerned about losing the grip on his party to crazies like this woman.

[toreyj01]

@PhilipNolan

@Safiel

Unfortunately, this shows the true danger of having isolated rural districts. A better effort should be made to weave suburban areas into rural districts as much as possible, to prevent the nomination of loons like Greene. The 14th could be easily adjusted to pick up more moderate Republican voters from the Atlanta suburbs and break up and outnumber rural voters.

Let me see if I’m reading this right, You want to gerrymander that district in order to prevent a politician you don’t agree with from being elected so that one that is less “controversial” can replace them? More importantly, why do you care? Do you live in that district? Or do you think the voters in that district are to ignorant to pick the “right” candidate?

If anyone gerrymanders that district it will be the GOP, you know this, yes?

Dems have zero influence on the drawing of congressional district lines in Georgia.

If the GOP hates this candidate, they can gerrymander her district so that she doesn’t win again.

[calirepub]

She’s going to fit in well with the rest of the GOP.

[Apocalypto]

This article explains Qanon cultists pretty well.

The FBI Declared QAnon a Domestic Terrorism Threat -- and Conspiracy...

[tzu]

There are no ‘racially Jewish’ people. And, no, it is foundational: a Jew cannot be a Nazi and remain a Jew. Jewishness is revocable.

A Jew can be a corrupt authoritarian (Netanyahu), a socialist war-hawk (Meir), a revisionist advocate of expulsion (Jabotinsky), a pot-smoking writer-actor-director-producer (Rogen), an agnostic progrock legend (Lee) or a clever comedian (most of them). But never, ever a Nazi.

[Sknyluv]

@Paul_Thomson

Define “a Q anon believer”.

In a YouTube video, Greene said the QAnon conspiracy theory, a broad movement that believes President Trump is stopping a deep-state ring of child sex traffickers, is “something I think it’s worth listening to and paying attention to.” She said Q, who believers think leads the movement, is a “patriot” and said “many of the things he has given clues about on 4Chan and other forums have really proven true.”

QAnon backer Marjorie Taylor Greene wins congressional primary in Georgia

[Apocalypto]

She brought 4chan up by name? Whoa! She’s definitely cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

[sikofit]

@Mountain_Soldier

@GrandWazoo

@Bosun

I hope we can someday put the racist card down and be a real nation. Peace, Bos’un

Have you watched her? Are you going to back her beliefs? Do you believe that she should be the face of your party?

Wow. She REALLY ascended the ranks. I guess that makes AOC and Ilhan Omar the face of the Dems. What a ■■■■■■■ stupid comment.

Did you not read @WuWei thread about who controls the Democratic agenda? That’s exactly where some think the power lies.

[Apocalypto]

She’s ■■■■■■■ looney tunes. She even name dropped Soros for good measure.

https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1292230303109582854?s=21

[FreeAndClear]

@tzu

There are no ‘racially Jewish’ people. And, no, it is foundational: a Jew cannot be a Nazi and remain a Jew. Jewishness is revocable.

A Jew can be a corrupt authoritarian (Netanyahu), a socialist war-hawk (Meir), a revisionist advocate of expulsion (Jabotinsky), a pot-smoking writer-actor-director-producer (Rogen), an agnostic progrock legend (Lee) or a clever comedian (most of them). But never, ever a Nazi.

Ethnically? What are ashkenazy Jews? How about Sephardic Jews?

We are genetic carriers of certain illnesses held specifically by ashkenaZi Jews. If i wanted to have kids my wife would have to go through amniocentesis before we conceive etc.

[tzu]

I think there are population clusters, alleles and haplogroups and all that, that emerged in Europe and esp the Pale, because of larger Christian policies re: “containment”, enhanced by a tendency to avoid intermarriage in that greater region as Germanic and Slavic nationalism and therefore antisemitism really kicked off again.

But, no, no one is ethnically Jewish. Jew is not a race.

A Mizrahi is pretty indistinguishable from a Kurd, an Ashkenaz from a Pole, German or Russian, a Sephardim from the larger Iberian and Catalan/Occitanian population pool, etc.

The obvious exception, being Kohanim and Levites, but that is to be expected in a hereditary priesthood.

[tzu]

My own family is currently treated as Sephardic, despite having no ancestors who lived in Castille, Galicia, Aragon, Catalunya, Portugal or Vizcaya/Navarra.

Because of geopolitics and the Aragonese Kingdom of Two Sicilies. “We” were in Abruzzi, Puglia (old and new), Calabria (old and new) and the Basilicata as early as the 400s, but probably earlier. But, because of the fortunes of the D’Aragos, we’re “Sephardic”.

[FreeAndClear]

@tzu

I think there are population clusters, alleles and haplogroups and all that, that emerged in Europe and esp the Pale, because of larger Christian policies re: “containment”, enhanced by a tendency to avoid intermarriage in that greater region as Germanic and Slavic nationalism and therefore antisemitism really kicked off again.

But, no, no one is ethnically Jewish. Jew is not a race.

A Mizrahi is pretty indistinguishable from a Kurd, an Ashkenaz from a Pole, German or Russian, a Sephardim from the larger Iberian and Catalan/Occitanian population pool, etc.

The obvious exception, being Kohanim and Levites, but that is to be expected in a hereditary priesthood.

I feel that may be that’s your first sentence stands in contrast to your third. If there is genetic uniformity due to isolation at what point does ethnic uniformity develop. Just because an Ashkenazi is indistinguishable from a Russian does not mean they are the same ethnically. The only people who can tell the physical difference between Palestenians and Jews in Israel (without the clothing obviously) are apparently the IDF.

I understand what you are saying but to me the isolation of the world jewery throughout history (both self-imposed and otherwise) has created (as you point out ) population clusters that over time have become genetically differentiable from the general population in which they may live.

[tzu]

Alleles and haplogroups define a spectrum of clusters, not identity.

Jewishness is primarily a matter of linguo-religious identity.

If a person clusters with other Mizrahi (and therefore, also Kurds) but was raised in an AoG church in the Bayou, speaks Acadian inflected English, keeps no holidays, performs no rituals, speaks no idiom and observes no dietary restrictions, is that person a Jew?

[FreeAndClear]

Identity is different from ethnicity. Identity is subject to philosophical debate of “who am i”

Alleles however certainly can identify ethnicity. While race is a social construct, ethnic differences in health, disease, are genetically identifiable and can be used to separate one ethnic group from another. For better or worse.

My favorite is when my friends have done 23 and me and it comes back 100% or something close to it “Ashkenazi Jew”

[tzu]

The Israeli answer, despite current larger Israelis assumptions and pesky Likud take on nationalism, is “no”. Unequivocally, no. A conversion would be necessary.

The French and German answers, I believe, are still, “no.”

Maybe only in North America, the land of exchangeable identity and self-definition par excellence, could our Cajun maybe define herself as Jewish, and really only after trying to conform to some of the linguistic, religious or culture hallmarks of Jewishness.

Because, “Jew” is an identity that does not require ethnic preconditions. A person cannot convert to Albanian, Lakota or Hmong. A person can observe rites, join a congregation and get a religious administrators signature, and from thereafter be Jewish.

[FreeAndClear]

Ah ok. Sorry I should have said that before, in my opinion it can be both - identity and ethnic group.

[tzu]

They can define ethnicity. They don’t necessarily do so.

What do Sammy Davis Junior, Eugene Mirman, Brian George, Tracy Ellis Ross, Zac Efron, Julia Louis-Dreyfuss, Lisa Kudrow and Isaac Mizrahi have in common?

Probably not a haplogroup.