2020 Election Fraud Thread (Part 2)

Many other states had sent observers to Arizona with several of them likely to follow in ultimately doing their own audits via similar means.

When???

The election was 11 months ago!!

Much like why it takes a lot more time for Congress to form commissions like with 9-1-1 because investigations and findings do not often materialize/conclude in mere days, weeks or even months immediately after the incident in question.

Lol.

Oh. Ok.

So the election was last November. It was certified and people put in office in January. But if it takes a few more months to START an investigation into fraud, that’s a-ok with you?

Thats pretty wild man.

Totally farcical scenario, but fun to consider while we fantasize about goofy constitutional mechanisms:

If electors are decertified some time in 2024, and Trump takes the electoral lead as a result… is he then ineligible to be elected in 2024, having now already been “twice elected”.

Enquiring minds want to know.

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Look it up, it took Congress over a year to 1st establish a commission. Noteworthy that the commission was mandated to provide recommendations designed to guard against future attacks.

The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, also known as the 9/11 Commission, was set up on November 27, 2002 , "to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11 attacks ", including preparedness for and the immediate response to the attacks. The commission was also mandated to provide recommendations designed to guard against future attacks.

How long do you plan to let the usurpers govern before challenging the election?

In my opinion, this is the Republican party end game. It’s been decades in the making. Starting in the 90s, previously fringe liberal ideals became moderate then widely accepted. Gay marriage, environmental protection, Obamacare, immigration reform, mental health views. The list goes on. Instead of adapting to changing beliefs, the Republican party doubled down on hardline conservative views. Abortion, guns, traditional marriage, anti-immigration, religion, etc. That decision created a smaller fervent base and lost some of the center and left leaning Republicans. This has been compounded by a shrinking white Christian population.

We’ve seen that play out in the polls. In the last 20 years, the Republicans have won one presidential election with the popular vote. Their two other wins were by electoral college alone, losing the popular vote. Several states with a fairly strong history of Republican support have trended left, with some now blue states.

The Republicans saw this coming. Republican states used their power to redistrict and maintain majorities even as the demographics of their constituents changed. That can only last so long. To bolster things some states have passed election reforms in hope of keeping power a little longer.

The last step is to normalize the rejection of election results. If an election is not in the party’s favor, the automatic reaction is to question the process. It doesn’t matter if there is no evidence or if legal maneuvers fail. If the Republicans didn’t win, it’s because someone cheated them out of it.

So here were are. A cycle of doubling down on fringe conservative beliefs, redistricting, changing voting practices and finally rejecting results of legal elections. Unfortunately this is how things will be for the foreseeable future.

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Clearly the polls are tilted to the left.

Clearly if the Dems had their way the electoral college would already be a thing of the past. Playing by the rules of the Constitution the general election for the Presidency does not include winning the popular vote.

Freedom of speech to protest whatever the reason is the American way.

I’m not so sure its a long con. I think it’s more, which is more fun? Struggling to convince the blue collar workers that you conned into supporting you by pretending to be the party of family values that cutting taxes on teh wealthy and deregulating industries so they can ■■■■ you over is actually a good thing for you to support because ‘freedom!’ and 'we’re not communists…

…or…

Telling those same voters that the only reason you lost was because of those cheating, vile scumbag democrats!!!

Particularly when the leader of your party’s greatest trick is convincing the base of the same?

It’s truly a come to jesus moment for republicans. Stand on the principles that you think are good for america, or shout ■■■■■■■■ and go to work for fox news.

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Which is what happened in the 2020 presidential election and why Biden is the president of the USA.

AZ Senate Repugs fought the good fight to suppress the records and to be honest I can’t blame them.

Who knew that leaning into the big lie, hiring Cyberninjas to conduct a “forensic” audit of one county, who’s CEO voices “Anon” in the conspiracy film The Deep Rig just to appeal to crazy Trumpers would have the potential to blow up in their faces?

BTW has anyone checked in on Doug? It’s been a bit now

It was a complete nonsense that there was an attempt to suppress any information into the process of the Cyber Ninja’s audit of the election and speaks to the motivation of those involved in making the decision for an audit.

Think about the subpoena’s -court orders for the routers and the like still not being satisfied in Maricopa …

We should clarify that these are not court orders. The subpoena for the routers was issued by the legislature, and in this instance not even the full legislature. A single member issued the subpoena.

The legal force of such an instrument is not well established.

The physical recount of the actual ballot papers matched the initial counts provided at the election. The routers brouhaha is a complete non sequitur.

The best way to ensure a fair and open election is a closed and secretive audit.

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If one was to read that out aloud it would be difficult to finish it without laughing at the sheer idiocy of the concept of a secret audit.