Things only seem sketchy because people keep making up baseless claims such as “In 94 precincts in Dekalb county, Biden got 90 percent. A near statistical impossibility.”
The reckoning is at hand.
Trump still is in charge and can ask his AG to open an investigation. Why hasn’t he?
Your Washington DC vs Fulton County, GA spin is wobbling quite a bit.
Dems getting 90% plus of the vote in Washington DC is not exactly news anymore.
Your counter in only showing 2020 for the District of Columbia also did not address Altair’s concern about voter turnout % in Fulton County precincts having at least 150 of them voting over 90% for Biden either:
What about in DC?
Biden in 2020 had 93% vs Trump 5.4% (67.6% turnout)
Clinton in 2016 had 90.9% vs Trump 4.1% (68.1% turnout)
Note: Even Obama in 2012 had 91.4% vs Romney 7.1%
Where as in Fulton -VOTER TURNOUT in 2020 is down as compared to 2016.
Add to that, Fulton population is relatively flat since 2010 census going from 920,445 to present day population of 1,077,740.
Yet Biden got 380,212 votes in Fulton vs only 297,051 to Clinton:
This gain of 83,161 votes for the Dems 2020 vs 2016 is alarming to put it mildly.
A pick up of 3.6% of registered voters in Fulton is what is officially tallied since Biden in 2020 had 72.6% vs Clinton in 2016 having 69.0%.
With 808,742 registered voters in Fulton County each point should equal 8,087 (1%).
Multiplied by 3.6 that explains only about 29,113 of the 83,161 additional votes Biden got.
Remember Apollo 13? “Houston, we’ve had a problem here.”
You are right there was over 350,000 votes in Washington.
Far more than Fulton county.
Allan
Fulton had more - 430,599 vs 523,779 total votes in 2016 and 2020 for Presidency, respectively.
Still waiting on how you explain the Fulton surge for Biden too.
But you were talking about 150 precincts not the entire county.
Allan
Altair made the granular point that 90%+ for Biden in 150 Fulton precincts is problematic. My follow up supported him on a macro basis never attempting to go further down into the precinct’s.
You on the other hand, are choosing to look at DC, probably deflecting elsewhere because you too can’t explain Fulton away either.
The District is about 90% dimocrat. It has been for decades.
Bos’un
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Who else besides me is in favor of this 15-person voter fraud commission idea?
10 days for 5 Supreme Justices, 5 each from the House and Senate to make recommendations just like they did after 1876 general election?
Here is an excerpt of this all today from a Fox Business article:
“We should follow that precedent,” Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and 10 other current and incoming senators said in a joint statement, referring to the race between Hayes and Samuel Tilden. “To wit, Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the commission’s findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed.”
In 1877, following the 1876 election, returns from Florida, Louisana, and South Carolina – and one elector from Oregon – were disputed. Congress then set up a commission to determine how the electoral votes should be allocated, reserving the right to accept or reject the commission’s findings. In the end, Congress awarded all 19 of the contested electoral votes to Hayes, who was elected with 185 electoral votes to Tilden’s 184.
GOP LAWMAKERS REJECT GOP PUSH TO OBJECT TO ELECTORAL COLLEGE RESULTS
Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., one of the senators calling for a repeat of what happened then, outlined how it would work in a Saturday appearance on Fox News’ “Justice with Judge Jeanine.”
“We’ve asked a very simple question: Can we put together an electoral commission, have five senators, five House members, five members of the Supreme Court?” Lankford explained. “This is exactly how it was set up in 1876 when there was three states that had all kinds of fraud issues. And so the election commission was set up at that time in 1876, just like this, to be able to study it, look at it, make recommendations. We think that’s a good plan. Obviously, there are millions and millions of Americans that think there are major issues with the election.”
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That not a deflection. You can get a 90% result.
Allan
It has been reported that a fair number of ballots were cast for Biden but elected Republicans down ballot for state and local positions. And therefore by saying that those ballots should not be counted how many down ballot Republicans would not be elected? Therefore if Republicans want to have a commission should we not swear in any of those folks who were elected down ballot?
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I’m not, because of the cluster that was the 1876 election Congress passed the Electoral Count Act of 1887 specifically to keep that kink of poppy ■■■■ out of counting the Electoral College Votes certified by validly recognized state agency reporting their results.
The Electoral College Act of 1887 exists now in Title 3 of the United States Code, in other words it is Federal law and the Senate is not empowered to arbitrarily change the process because some are pissed that their guy lost.
Now with that said, I’m more than willing to support a Bipartisan Commission comprised of (a) senators and representatives, and (b) state governors consisting of equal number of each party. The commission would have a 2-year charter to examine various aspects of our voting process and report to Congress suggested changed to (a) states in how they conduct federal elections, and (b) Congress for proposed legislation to standardize federal elections under their Constitutional authority per Article I Section 4 of the Constitution.
Reporting Results Must Include:
- Foreign Interference in US Federal Elections and methods to minimize it.
- Mail-in Voting and methods to maximize security.
- Use of Early Voting and Official Dropboxes.
- Legislative Gerrymandered Districts v. Bipartisan Commission Defined Districts.
- Methods of expanding voter participation and reduction of disenfranchisement of voters.
- Organizational structure for a national cooperative Voter Registration cross reference system between states including voter registrations and vital statistics (births, deaths, etc).
(EDIT: Actually “kink” was supposed to be “kind”, but ya know what “kink” kind of works also.)
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.WW, PSHS
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Exactly. congress wanted to avoid a repeat of the 1876 election when a commission not the voters determined who the electors are.
Allan
Trump is still trying to steal the election.
Lord, I apologize for that there, and…be with the pygmies in New Guinea, amen.
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.WW, PSHS
The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”
“The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry,” he said. “And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.”
Raffensperger responded: “Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong.”
At another point, Trump said: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”
And people want to tear up the constitution for this clown. Pathetic.
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Here is the good part. Things will be laid out on the 6th. And it will be nearly impossible CNN and MSNBC to ignore it. Simply talking about Covid all day probably won’t be an option. If there are not rock solid answers to all the questioned posed then a commission is necessary.
Right?
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We agree.
That being said, neither of us can easily rule out massive fraud in Fulton occurred though.
Simply based upon recent general election history, Fulton is suspect.
Citing a top hub across America, namely in DC, one of the Dem’s stronghold’s shows 90%+ is the best one party can ever reasonably expect.
Here is the most recent breakdown of registered voters for the District of Columbia, noting the between the Dems 386,917 and no party affiliation 81,485 equals almost 94% of the overall 504,043 people on the rolls :
https://dcboe.org/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=8c8baafd-110b-40aa-9750-dff333ec863c
Calm yourself. Taking ten days to investigate election questions is not a danger to the constitution. Remember, your nit wits spent three years trying to bring down a president simply because the Hillary campaign asked for it. Why don’t you just simma down, wait until the 6th and see if there are any questions remaining to be answered? Fair enough?
