1st Amendment and Schools - Punishment for Off Campus Social Media

[PurpnGold]

@DMK

If it is off school grounds it is none of the school’s business.

What if it is a threat to shoot up the school?

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

So we generally know what was said in the social media by these students.

Would we accept being called into the local FBI office and sentenced to 10 days in county jail for this same posts? All white participants?

Why would the FBI care unless there was an abject threat? A better example, as pointed out, would be if your employer questioned you about the speech and fired you.

Students are different than adults.

[DMK]

@PurpnGold

What are you thoughts on threats of life.

Like a student posts on social media, off campus, that he will shot up his school tomorrow. Should he be suspended?

If they are dumb enough to do that then they should ride the short bus to a remedial school.

[PurpnGold]

@Sknyluv

A better example, as pointed out, would be if your employer questioned you about the speech and fired you.

Students are different than adults.

But your employer is a private entity. This high school is government.

[PurpnGold]

@DMK

If they are dumb enough to do that then they should ride the short bus to a remedial school.

Do you think they should be suspended for that? If off campus?

[RTchoke]

@wiley8425

What parents? Isn’t that why the schools are coming up with crap like this to begin with?

The schools are not parents and they need to be taught that.

That lesson needs to be learned.

[DMK]

@PurpnGold

Do you think they should be suspended for that? If off campus?

I think you are going to an extreme. What has happened when a student makes a threat on that level in the past?

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

But the school should take action to prevent an altercation.

Prior restraint? Why?

How can a school “prevent” an altercation?

If a school is notified of a possible threat (fight) I think it would be in their best interest to prevent that altercation. If only pulling the parties in question out of class to discuss the issue or simply telling the kids to “not fight”, they should attempt to advert the altercation.

Why? Nothing has happened. No laws or even rules were broken. You going to “call 'em over gossip”?

That reminds me of the 911 calls on MWAG.

You want to make a general announcement reiterating the rules over the intercom? Go ahead.

Why are you going to single out two students over a Karen Komplaint?

[DMK]

@RTchoke

The schools are not parents and they need to be taught that.

That lesson needs to be learned.

Amen. Schools are for teaching. What happens when kids leave the campus is not their business.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

What are you thoughts on threats of life.

Like a student posts on social media, off campus, that he will shot up his school tomorrow. Should he be suspended?

No. The law should be called.

[WuWei]

@DMK

@RTchoke

The schools are not parents and they need to be taught that.

That lesson needs to be learned.

Amen. Schools are for teaching. What happens when kids leave the campus is not their business.

Bu…buh… iT tAKes a ViLlaGe!

[DMK]

@WuWei

Bu…buh… iT tAKes a ViLlaGe!

Sure. The village I choose for my child. Not the one chosen for me.

[PurpnGold]

@DMK

I think you are going to an extreme. What has happened when a student makes a threat on that level in the past?

It’s not an extreme example. It’s an example of prior restraint.

Today, They would be suspended and maybe even expelled.

I’m asking you, should they?

[DMK]

@PurpnGold

It’s not an extreme example. It’s an example of prior restraint.

Today, They would be suspended and maybe even expelled.

I’m asking you, should they?

Already answered.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

No. The law should be called.

I agree.

[PurpnGold]

@DMK

Already answered.

Sneaky gave an answer… you didn’t.

It’s cool. Thanks

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

So we generally know what was said in the social media by these students.

Would we accept being called into the local FBI office and sentenced to 10 days in county jail for this same posts? All white participants?

Why would the FBI care unless there was an abject threat? A better example, as pointed out, would be if your employer questioned you about the speech and fired you.

Students are different than adults.

FBI and schools are government. What happened to these kids is basically the same thing. The school is not their employer. Going to school is not voluntary.

[DMK]

@PurpnGold

Sneaky gave an answer… you didn’t.

It’s cool. Thanks

I gave two but it’s cool. You’re welcome.

[PurpnGold]

@RTchoke

The schools are not parents and they need to be taught that.

That lesson needs to be learned.

Interesting thought…

Schools do exactly what parents do… without shared DNA.

They teach
They discipline
They feed
They provide shelter

They do this for 5-7 hours a day… for 6-8 months. In a lot of ways parents depend on the school to watch over their kids.

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

Why? Nothing has happened. No laws or even rules were broken. You going to “call 'em over gossip”?

That reminds me of the 911 calls on MWAG.

You want to make a general announcement reiterating the rules over the intercom? Go ahead.

Why are you going to single out two students over a Karen Komplaint?

The threat happened. The school can either be proactive or reactive. It’s up to them. I think they should be proactive in the face of credible threats.