You think Biden news of him being linked to taking classified documents will preclude #46 running for re-election?


Maybe, but not because of this. The discovery and reporting of the docs came from Biden himself.

How can you be so sure that is in fact the case? Official statements from the White House or a POTUS directly often have spin and sometimes even worse…

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Okay, but that is your burden of proof.

Whether Trump can run for President is a different question.

He’s not excluded from being governed by the statute.

Arrogant and no shame.

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Classification status is a red herring. THE DOCUMENTS WERE NOT TRUMP’S TO TAKE, regardless of classification status.

The statute Nick cites talks about “government documents” and also doesn’t mention classification status.

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I’m going to go off topic here for a second and say KJP is one of the most annoying press secretaries we have had in some time.

She is also extremely brittle.

And that is saying something…

But it’s (D)ifferent dammit! :wink:


:+1: Thanks for the clarification.

Just curious if you agree this very statute provision punishment provisions including prohibition from running from public office for a specified period of time puts Biden in potentially a “unique” yet still serious legal bind as compared to Trump?

If they are scheming then Aunt Pelosi may be involved in the whole thing trying to clear the way for Nephew Newsom.

Biden will not step aside for anyone however.

So these irresponsibly neglected classified documents were discovered back in November, just days before the election, and it was kept quiet.



Liked: Often it’s essentially the cover up that does one in…

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I dont want Biden running again and I suspect he will not.

Then again I dont really want any side running aged candidates.

The Republicans and Dems can do better than Biden and Trump.

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Excuse me November 2nd was still before the election so pfft


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While the impetus to explain the world and its events through wild eyed conspiracy theories seems to be the default position for many, I think any neutral observer can see this is a simple oversight and an investigation will show no nefarious intent.

And yes, it’s (D)ifferent. Biden was part of the wave of Democrats elected after Watergate and has never had a whiff of corruption around him (that wasn’t Russian disinformation), refusing to own any stocks or any financial shenanigans, always being Americas poorest Senator.

But the fantastical tales are fun to read, keep them coming.

That being said, does this breaking scandal on then VP Biden screwing up taking classified documents with him, make things much easier for Trump to ultimately prevail in securing at least the GOP Nomination and maybe the White House too?

FYI, DJT and JRB will be the ripe ages of 78 and 82 years old, respectively as of Jan 20, 2025.

Seems like a bit of political fodder on your part depicting “Amtrak Joe” as more or less a working stiff like most others of us hard working Americans.

According to Yahoo News:

While still serving as vice president, his (Biden) net worth was $2.5 million, but in the years between holding political office his net worth shot up to $8 million, according to Forbes. Celebrity Net Worth pegs Biden’s estimated net worth at $9 million, however.

At quick glance according to MSN there are at least several President’s when 1st moving into the White House were worth less (present value) than #46 including:

Theodore Roosevelt

Before: $1.3 million (adjusted for inflation)

After: $100 million-plus (adjusted for inflation)

In 1878, the New York Times reported that young Teddy Roosevelt, a student at Harvard, inherited $60,000 — more than $1.3 million in today’s money — when his prominent reformer father died. The future president would go on to become one of America’s most consequential and dynamic leaders. He lost much of his fortune through bad land deals, but became a prolific writer after his career in public service. That allowed him to earn some of that money back, and he inherited a lot more. His exact fortune is hard to nail down, but he’s commonly listed among the five richest presidents in history, with a net worth in the nine figures today.

Harry Truman

Before: Six figures (adjusted for inflation)

After: Six figures (adjusted for inflation)

The 33rd president of the United States, Harry Truman holds several big distinctions. He remains the first and only world leader ever to use nuclear weapons in war, he was the first Medicare recipient, and the poorest president in history. Truman worked a bunch of odd jobs and served in the National Guard during World War I, but a failed hat shop venture left him so deep in debt that the presidential salary was doubled during his time in office to lift him up. His net worth never broke $1 million in modern-day dollars throughout his life.

Richard Nixon

Before: $2 million

After: $15 million
Richard Nixon took office in 1969, more than a half-century ago. The 37th president of the United States, Nixon went on to resign in disgrace but still managed to profit handsomely from his time in office, according to the American University study. In fact, Nixon grew his pre-presidency net worth by 650% by the time he died in 1994.

Gerald Ford

Before: $1.4 million

After: $7 million

In the Oval Office for just three years, Gerald Ford grew his net worth by 400% from the time he entered the White House in 1974 until his death in 2006, according to the American University study. He, too, wrote books and spoke for big profits, much of which came in the post-Carter era.

Jimmy Carter

Before: $2.3 million

After: $10 million

Former peanut farmer and 39th president of the United States Jimmy Carter is 96 years old, a record in longevity among all American presidents. He’s been out of office for 40 years, and according to the American University study, it was Carter who pioneered the modern post-presidency money model. He was broke when he left the White House and rebuilt his lost fortune by writing books and taking paid speaking gigs, a path that has since been walked by every single president to follow except, so far, Donald Trump.

George H.W. Bush

Before: $4 million

After: $23 million

The elder Bush had grown his net worth by 475% between the time he took office in 1989 and 2017, when The American University study was conducted. The 41st president of the United States, former director of the CIA, and vice president for eight years under Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush died in 2018 at the age of 94.

Bill Clinton

Before: $1.3 million

After: $241.5 million
Bill and Hillary Clinton were worth $1.3 million before they came to the White House, according to the American University study. Upon leaving, they embarked on a journey to the tippy, tippy top of the book deal and speaking tour universe that would see their combined net worths grow by more than 6,000%. They are the highest-earning post-presidency power couple by a mile, and Celebrity Net Worth estimates their combined fortune to be more than $240 million and counting today.

Barack Obama

Before: $1.3 million

After: $70 million

The Obamas entered the White House as millionaires, but only barely, according to a report from American University in Washington, D.C. Upon leaving, they leveraged their remarkable life stories, their impressive writing and oratory skills, and most importantly, their enormous celebrity to land massive book deals and speaking tours. Along the way, they built a brand that is now worth $70 million, according to Celebrity Net Worth. The American University report predicts that the Obamas are just getting started and will be worth $242.5 million when all is said and done, if they play their cards rights.

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Yeah, amazing what happens when you’re out of office and you and your wife write a couple of books that sell really well can do to to your net worth.

Where does 2071 exempt the POTUS, sure he can’t be prosecuted while in office. However he can still be prosecuted:

A. Through impeachment and upon conviction by the Senate removed from office. At which point criminal prosecution can proceed.

B. His term of office ends. At which point criminal prosecution can proceed.


That’s surely one of the many “perks” holding the office of the Presidency especially in the modern era we are living in more recent times.

However, the difference here with Biden to your point is according to Yahoo News Biden and his wifey did not apparently earn much while Joe served in the Senate. An excerpt:

Although Biden has made a steady income as a politician, the majority of his wealth has come from book deals and speaking fees. Biden’s starting salary in the Senate was $42,500 a year in 1973; when he left the Senate in 2009, he was making $169,300. As vice president, his salary shot up to $230,700 and he’s earning $400,000 as president.

Biden’s first memoir, “Promises to Keep,” earned him $71,000 in royalties and $9,500 for audiobook rights around the time of its publication in 2008. But that’s little compared to what he has earned since leaving his first stint in the White House.