Hahaha.
Russia - we are fighting to prevent the growth of nato
NATO is now what 90 miles outside of St. Petersburg
Victory Russia!
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Nobody in Ukraine gave a flying dragon about the eastern Ukrainians. They were not persecuted after the coup only after Russia decided to install separatist puppets and feed them hunting rifles that somehow looked just like anti aircraft weapons
Yes, it looks the neocons were right. Give an inch to a dangerous, expansionist military power, and the next thing they you know they will be on your doorstep.
If only Moscow had neocons, they could have avoided fascists in German tanks on their western borders.
I agree that any concern about Russian-speaking Ukrainians disappeared from western media. That does not mean the problems disappeared.
Torch-lit marches by white nationalists are an expression of freedom and democracy in Ukraine. Any concerns are Russian propaganda.
A torch-lit march by white nationalists was a threat to democracy and freedom in Charlottesville. Dismissing concerns is Russian propaganda.
See the difference?
Stop. No seriously stop.
You are trying to confound something again.
Thst western Ukraine is replete with human garbage doesnât take away from the fact that there wasnât any persecution of Russian speaking Ukrainians on the national level.
I donât need to follow western news i am fluent in Russian and i can understand ukranian though donât ask me to speak it
The extremists that the US supported, armed, and funded made sure that people perceived as pro-Russian were attacked. The government did not intervene to stop them.
The 2014 incineration of dozens of pro-Russian leftists in the Odessa Trades Union building was barely a blip in western media. It was a much bigger deal in Ukraine and Russia.
Nice try
First of this was after the separatism riots began. All funded by Russia.
Second of all what were the people in the building doing. Attending an event or laying sniper fire?
(Ps for anyone who is military i apologize in advance for my ridiculous use of military lingo. Itâs all from movies 
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Mmmm.
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Russiaâs Wagner mercenary group was under pressure Thursday in war-battered Bakhmut after some Russian regulars fled their positions and had âthrown awayâ valuable ground to Ukrainian forces, the private militiaâs leader said.
âThe situation on the flanks is developing according to the worst predicted scenario,â Yevgeny Prigozhin said. He dismissed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyyâs talk of delaying Ukraineâs counteroffensive, saying it had already begun and was proving to be âunfortunately, partially successful.â
Multiple Russian bloggers also said some regular Russian soldiers had âleft their positionsâ in or near Bakhmut, an eastern city that has been the primary focus of fighting for several months. The Ukrainian military said 165 Russians were killed, 216 were wounded and one was taken prisoner. Prigozhin has repeatedly criticized the Russian military for failing to provide enough ammunition and for lacking resolve in battle.
Western NGOs bragged about funding the 2014 coup in Kyiv, but you will never hear about that in western media.
See Dr. Sachâs video starting at 11:00.
Are we done with the Russian speakers being persecuted after the coup but before Russia funded the protests? Ok cool
Yes there is no doubt in my mind that the coup was absolutely backed and funded by nato members
No. The US and other western governments have made no secret that they funded, armed, and supported Azov and similar paramilitary groups in Ukraine. The policy of these groups has been that Russian culture along with anyone who identifies as Russian must be exterminated from Ukraine.
Western media briefly covered these groups back in 2014, they have ignored and downplayed the groups in recent years.
See this 2014 BBC video starting at 2:00:
The far-right ultranationalist groups never got more than a few percent in the national elections, but that does not matter when they have guns and western money and are willing to use them. The BBC acknowledged that their power was far beyond what their polling numbers might indicate:
Run by the extremist Patriot of Ukraine organisation, which considers Jews and other minorities âsub-humanâ and calls for a white, Christian crusade against them, it sports three Nazi symbols on its insignia: a modified Wolfâs Hook, a black sun (or âHakensonneâ) and the title Black Corps, which was used by the Waffen SS.
Azov . . . seems to enjoy special backing from some top officials:
Interior Minister Arsen Avakov and his deputy Anton Gerashchenko actively supported the parliament candidacy of Andriy Biletsky, the Azov and Patriot of Ukraine commander
Vadim Troyan, another top Azov official and Patriot of Ukraine member, was recently named police chief for the Kiev region
Mr Korotkykh is also an Azov member
Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict - BBC News
Did you read what i wrote?
I agree with you with regards to the coup
There was no systemic persecution of Russian speaking Ukrainians
You are trying to project crazy onto the entire western Ukraine. Again itâs replete with garbage humans.
Looks like some form of smaller counteroffensive is happening at this point with large gains happening in Bakhmut and nearby. Unconfirmed.
I agree with you with regards to the coup
Good.
There was no systemic persecution of Russian speaking Ukrainians
Perhaps you could make that case if you say that attacks from gangs and paramilitary groups operating outside of direct control of Kyiv were not âsystemic persecutionâ. It is a bit like arguing that lynchings in the Jim Crow South were not âsystemic persecutionâ either.
You are trying to project crazy onto the entire western Ukraine. Again itâs replete with garbage humans.
I do not consider the people of western Ukraine to be âcrazyâ or âgarbage humansâ. On the other hand, there are plenty of nationalist extremists in parts of western Ukraine. They are the people who have received the most support from the US government, and they are driving the politics in Kyiv.
Ben is right and so are you. It happened in 1954.
Its hilarious how much of an ad for NATO this has all been. Even Japan now wants closer ties with NATO, with a liaison office to be opened in Tokyo
NATO was a shaky relic of WWII with a vague worry of Russian militarism. Now it is united and is helping defeat Russian warmongering. Thanks Putin!
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I have plenty of awareness of Russians being encouraged to move to Ukraine to replace the ethnically cleansed Ukranians who wouldnât follow the program. its stil happeniing
if only russia hadnât invaded poland with its german allies
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Churchill wanted to use German troops to continue the war against the Soviet Union in 1945. The problem was that Soviet forces vastly outnumbered those of the western allies.
Of course, there are neocons in Washington and London who are itching to implement a modern version of the plan.
