Why I Want Bernie to be the Democrat Nominee

Fake news.

Make college free? Great! This will do what? Perhaps double the number of people seeking a college degree? Where will they go? There are not enough seats available to accommodate the influx. In the beginning some will be denied. Who gets to choose who gets the free stuff and who’s not entitled enough? Of course education being a business, new schools will open looking for their share of the tuition dollars. The value of education will ultimately decrease as will the quality. Then what? Title 1 for colleges? No collegian left behind? More money down the rabbit hole.

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Medicare for all! YAY! So now that we have medicare for all what do we do when everyone with a sniffle is running to the doctor? This is going to create great demand on doctors. There aren’t enough of them and some people won’t get to see one. Who chooses which ones get seen and which ones don’t? How many will get sicker waiting? How many will die? The increased demand and economics being what it is this will drive up costs. The potential income will attract more people to medicine as a career, which of course goes back to that whole free college problem of not enough seats–>new schools–>declining standards.

How will we handle the increased cost in the beginning? Price fixing? Well then you kind of kill that whole reason for people being attracted to medicine and exacerbate the supply problem. Will we institute a medical draft? Say anyone with an SAT score over “X” must take a medical major? Or maybe we can handle it on demand side. Lets say, to be fair, every time you call for a doctors visit you go into a lottery. We can say we have “X” number of doctors who at maximum efficiency can see “Y” number of patients equals “Z” number of appointments. Once you reach “Z”… losers don’t get an appointment. Try again next month… loser!

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Nice spin

Great points! I have family born in Norway. There a doctor makes about $100 a month more than a garbage truck driver.

What spin?

I think your family is lying to you.
Entry level doctor in Norway makes about 127k US dollars a year (https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/medical-doctor/norway).
A garbage collector in Norway makes about 26.5K a year (https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/garbage-collector/norway).

Also unlike the US, I believe education at a public university is free… so they may be paid less than us doctors, but they don’t have school debt.

Even if I didn’t have a copay I wouldn’t go to the doctor every time I have a sniffle. Also for a sniffle you may not need a doctor, you might be find with a nurse practitioner. Also telemedicine is becoming more viable allowing doctors to see more patients in a day. Not everyone goes to a doctor everytime they have a sniffle in countries with universal heath care, so it really doesn’t seem like it will be an issue.

So they won’t admit any students who don’t meet a certain level of academic rigor… like they do now.

You make it sound like single payer healthcare hasn’t been ever done before. Like there is today, there are waiting lists and urgent care gets moved to the top or you see an urgent care specialist.

There are many college mush-for-brains, millennial and X Gen lemmings and those who are legalized THC product aficionados that are embracing Ole Bernie and his Venezuelan vision of a free utopian world run into the ground by the goobermint.
Sure hope there are more sane people that see the damage Sanders would be capable of with his Socialist line of BS

Of course it will be. There’s lots of people now who don’t go to a doctor for a combination of reasons. The chief combination being affordability+noncritical. Take away either and they will go, especially when the meds are free too. As for telemedicine and seeing a nurse… thanks for the declining quality of health care!

except of course with the influx of new students quality will decline. Either because class sizes increase beyond the capacity for professors to adequately assess the students, or because more schools have to be opened making it harder to ensure academic standards.

Now you’ve hit on why people with single payer don’t go to the doctor in countries where its free, by the time they get to see one, they don’t need them… one way. or the other.

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Well, you may have me there, it was years ago, hopefully it has become more capitalist since then, & maybe less socialist…a good argument against the left always saying how great socialism is in Europe…

Then have copays? I mean, over 90% of people have health insurance already and this isn’t an issue.

Evidence?

I’ll be honest, its starting to get tiring to argue against the made up nightmares in your head. There’s no reason why they can’t control the class sizes or having more schools means academic standards will drop.

Or perhaps its because going to a doctor is a hassle and not worth the effort for a cold.

Bernie isn’t a communist.

It really has nothing to do with socialism or capitalism. You can have a purely socialist system and still decide to compensate one profession more than another. The difference is generally who makes the decision.

That’s a big problem.

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What is?

Really? I mean really? Pfffffffffffft!

Yeah, the difference is who makes the decision, a government run socialist system bureaucrat or a capitalist voted for office holder.

Yeah, you go with that! Bwahahahaha! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: