Why did it take Snopes 7 years to admit the fine-people hoax was really a hoax?

I have no problem with that.

That isn’t the point though. The point was that the Unite the Right rally was expressly a White Supremacist Neo-Nazi rally and not about saving a statue.

When that part is understood then the discussion can move forward.

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…and I could care less. It was legal. It was peaceful and in the US, you have a right to protest. I don’t agree with the reasoning but I concur that they have the right. What you are promoting is an authoritarian government to stop this. Oh…looky, looky…the nazi mentality from the left.

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It is quite wild to criticize someone saying “oh… looky, looky… the nazi mentality from the left” in a discussion about a bunch of Nazis gathering during an event titled “Unite the Right” where Trump completely whiffed characterizing the aftermath of a nazi murdering a woman.

Just wild man.

This is why the both sides and whatabout thing works. The culture war nonsense allows for the stupid jiu-jistsu move of ignoring the authoritarians trying to take over from the right… it allows one to support them even.

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What’s wild is how duped and sheoplized you truly are or…and I must reiterate this again; since my conclusion is you’re not that stupid, you must be a paid person to go on Hannity’s website and promote left wing stupidity. You’re here waaaaaaaaaaaay too much…which gives credence to this conclusion because there’s no time left for a real job. Now carry on @jezcoe :sunglasses: :tumbler_glass:

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I don’t think that you are stupid.

I think that you are willfully ignorant of this issue because it doesn’t feel good to acknowledge that Trump failed a very easy test.

…and you…being a Russian collusion swallowing Brandonite, who under his leadership has illegally allowed millions upon millions upon millions of illegal aliens into this country, costing us billions and billions and billions “we the people” do not have, while remaining in total denial of the increase of crime in NYC…where you live…and around the country…even though Smyrna has pointed it out to you on multiple occassions…cuz you’re again duped…this time by the FBI…makes me conclude…your opinion is totally useless.

Cheers. :sunglasses: :tumbler_glass:

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You are saying that you believe in an extreme form of guilt by association. Anyone who is on the publicly supports the “same side” as a Nazi is a Nazi themselves or at least a Nazi supporter. Explicit rejection of the Nazis is irrelevant.

By that logic the President of Ukraine and the whole Canadian parliament are Nazi supporters along with the Biden Administration and anyone who has supported the cause of Ukranian independence.

“We have here in the chamber today a Ukrainian Canadian war veteran from the Second World War who fought for Ukrainian independence against the Russians and continues to support the troops today even at his age of 98. His name is Yaroslav Hunka. I’m very proud to say that he is from North Bay and from my constituency of Nipissing-Timiskaming. He is a Ukrainian hero, a Canadian hero, and we thank him for all of his service.”–Candian Speaker of Parliament Anthony Rota

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You are still not understanding what the Untie the Right rally was.

Do you actually think it was about a statue?

I don’t think you understand what “Untie the Right” was about.

Charlottesville has all the fingerprints of an FBI operation. The sudden appearance of hundreds of neatly dressed, young men with tiki torches is consistent with most being paid extras rather than true believers.


The appearance of artistic posters to promote the rally instead of crude signs suspicious as well.


Richard Spenser, the Neo-Nazi leader who organized the protest, is still on twitter and sporting artwork that combines elements of the NATO logo and the pride flag. Did someone say “astroturf”?
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A much smaller Klan rally a month earlier looked much different.


Based on the Church report from the 1970s, these kinds of things are typical ways the FBI disrupts political opposition. Infiltration, subversion, false flags, etc. to discredit dissidents are the rule not the exception.

Now we are off the rails.

When the train comes back from cuckootown we can talk.

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There is no reality - everything is FBI.

From your first post:

What the Charlottesville incident exposed in Trump was his deep ignorance of what the Unite the Rally was all about and his need to define everything through a culture war issue.

Yes, we need get back to mind reading and evidence-free speculation to create false narratives about Trump . . .

The reality is that a primary function of the FBI has long been to infiltrate, subvert, and discredit political opposition. That was documented in detail in the Church committee.

There is also evidence that the FBI has created and supported secret armies to target opposition groups. In the Vietnam era that was a right-wing militia who attacked antiwar demonstrators. Antifa sounds like the modern left-wing equivalent.

There were fine operatives on both sides, which would explain why it has taken seven years for Snopes to admit the truth about the fine-people hoax.

So you are countering what you see as a false narrative about Trump not with anything that has evidence behind it but cuckoo crazy town conspiracy theories that the FBI was behind the Unite the Right rally.

It tracks.

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Your problem (one of them anyways) is that you are stuck in this stupid article by the washington post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/08/very-fine-people-charlottesville-who-were-they-2/

It doesn’t matter if 10,000, 1,000, 100 or 1 person was there for “just saving the statues”. The lines had already been drawn on this ridiculous battlefield and the fact is that partisan elected and appointed officials were already on a rampage to rewrite history and tear down these statues and monuments with the help of their fringe dial-a-mobs and had done so on multiple occasions.

There were people who simply didn’t want to see it done, or done that way, and weren’t trying “to turn back the clock”.

You know that those people exist, but the washington post gave you all the cover you need to continue denying reality.

It’s ■■■■■■■■

But then again, we’ve seen it from you on nearly every argument made here, so why change now??

And trump didn’t “fail the test”.

That’s just more cover for people to continue with their hate and delusion.

But those people weren’t at Charlottesville.

Why would a fine person, interested in preserving a statue, join a Neo-Nazi White Supremacist rally? How do you maintain your ‘fine person’ title if you do that?

If you were a fine person who wanted a statue to remain, would you join a new-nazi white supremicist rally?

Doesn’t being fine person make that impossible?

Why is it in your world, to show that you do not want our historical statues destroyed by "V"irtuous idiots, it requires you “join” a nazi rally? Are you really that mentally limited? Seriosly…grow up.

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Remember…the corrupt FBI duped you regarding the crime statistics in NYC that you were ignorant of, even though you live there plus your ole buddy Smyrna brought it to your attention on multiple occassions.

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The transcript shows that Trump explictly stated that the neo-Nazis and white nationalists were not “fine people”.

Snopes documented that, and you still have not offered any explanation for why it took them seven years to admit the truth.

Instead, all I see are mind reading and claims of clairvoyance about Trump’s alleged motives to try to confuse the issue. The fact that the mainstream media and fact checkers have supported an easily debunked hoax for seven years is entirely consistent with involvement of the FBI and its allies.

If the JFK assassination is any guide, it may take 60 years or more the full story to come out.