Why did it take Snopes 7 years to admit the fine-people hoax was really a hoax?

All the evidence is right there in the transcript of a video. They could have easily debunked the hoax soon after it came out in 2017.

They could have done a fact check in 2021 after Democrat prosecutors used the hoax in the Trump impeachment trial and Trump’s lawyer debunked it on live television.

Why did they wait until June 2024 to finally admit the truth?

In September, Harris repeated the debunked hoax as fact in the debate with no response from moderators.

What does that say about Harris and the moderators?

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They were finally forced to under duress.

The dimocrats mask is completely off, and everyone knows their ■■■■■■■■ is ■■■■■■■■ and there’s no more hiding or denying it.

See the lack of endorsements from major newspapers and even the existence of the Cackles campaign at all for other examples.

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What the Charlottesville incident exposed in Trump was his deep ignorance of what the Unite the Rally was all about and his need to define everything through a culture war issue.

He was categorically wrong that the Unite the Right rally had people peacefully protesting the removal of a statue to a loser general… it was from it’s inception a White Supremacist neo-nazi gathering and that is who attended.

He failed the easiest test ever put in front of a President… to simply denounce Neo-nazis without both sidesing something.

So he has to invent a group of of people who were simply there to peacefully gather and protest in order to defend them and now we all have to pretend that those people also existed in order for Trump to be right.

Those people did not exist… they were ALL white Supremacists and Neo-nazis and years later he still remains in the wrong

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There were people there who were not part of the Unite the Right or Antifa. Those were the people that Trump was referring to, which is explicitly clear in the transcript.

Snopes and other “fact-checkers” could have ended the hoax in 2017 if they actually had done their jobs. Instead they have been allies those who push lies and propaganda in the mainstream media.

The mainstream media treat the American people like mushrooms. They keep us in the dark and feed us bull ■■■■■

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That is true… there was the Neo-Nazi White Supremacists at the Unite the Right rally, There was Antifa who was there ready for a fight and there were people who were peacefully protesting the Neo-Nazi White Supremacists who came to their town.

There was not a mythical group of peaceful people who simply showed up to a White Supremacist Neo-nazi rally to protest the removal of a statue, That group of people just did not exist.

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Yes, I think that the Snopes flip was not a result of a sudden pang of conscience after seven years.

Instead, the change is evidence of conflicts within the deep-state politburo. Until recently they were united in their opposition to Donald Trump, united in pushing war with Russia, and united in unlimited immigration.

Now there are divisions as it has become obvious that a changes in policies are necessary. The divisions mean that Snopes is finally allowed to admit the truth.

Just look at the sheer retards still parroting it and the answer reveals itself. :wink:

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You can hear the crazy and stupid from some of them reverberating through time and space.

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The dishonesty of the left wing media on this was disgusting.

He said there were fine people on both sides but that he wasn’t talking about the neo nazi’s or BLM.

The media edited out the latter part to dishonestly denigrate him.

The woke libs either fell for it or dishonestly repeated the edited part ad nauseum.

He should sue the hell out of the media over it.

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Don’t stray from the narrative, or else The TVA will be by to prune you.

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There was not a mythical group of peaceful people who simply showed up to a White Supremacist Neo-nazi rally to protest the removal of a statue, That group of people just did not exist.

Actually this point is irrelevant. Trump was defending the right of people to speak freely.
He believed that there were people there who were not connected to the violent extremists on either side and those were the people he was supporting.

The reality is that there is plenty of evidence that there were pro-statue protestors who were unconnected to the Neo-Nazi group. The New York Times admitted that soon after the protests:

”Good people can go to Charlottesville,” said Michelle Piercy, a night shift worker at a Wichita, Kan., retirement home, who drove all night with a conservative group that opposed the planned removal of a statue of the Confederate general Robert E. Lee.

After listening to Mr. Trump on Tuesday, she said it was as if he had channeled her and her friends — all gun-loving defenders of free speech, she said, who had no interest in standing with Nazis or white supremacists: ”It’s almost like he talked to one of our people.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/08/17/new-york-times-charlottesville-protesters-not-white-supremacists-nazis/

Of course, if you really believe that anyone even remotely associated with Nazis is a Nazi supporter, what does that imply when the President of Ukraine, the Prime Minister of Canada, and the entire Canadian Parliament gave standing ovations for a literal Nazi SS veteran?

Never forget that the Gov. of VA decided not to send extra police there for security. They were reportedly “on standby” iirc. (Sounds familiar)

AND, people are allowed to peacefully protest whatever the ■■■■ they want to. Some leftist ■■■■■■■■■ went there looking to cause trouble, after all, there was an election to win in the fall of that year.

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He was wrong in that belief. There were not any non White Supremacist Neo-Nazis attending a White Supremacist Neo-Nazi rally. That group of people just did not exist.

Michelle Piercy travelled there with a “conservative group”. That group was American Warrior Revolution which is part of the militia movement. Now I ask you… why is a militia going to what everyone involved knows is a White Supremacist rally?

There is a well detailed review of what happened in Charlottesville that includes the July 8 Klan rally at the same park. It details what happened in agonizingly dry detail.

You know what that report did not find… these mythical people who heard about a rally in Charlottsville traveled across the country and showed up and oops there are Nazis. Everyone who went there knew exactly what it was because the intention of the rally was made clear and the city had been dealing with White Supremacists gathering at that park all summer.

Trump may have thought that he was correct in that there were people there to simply protest about a statue… but it wasn’t a protest about a statue… it was a White Supremacist Neo-Nazi rally. That is why the community response was what it was. You don’t get the National Council of Churches showing up to counter protest a protest about a statue… they showed up because of the Nazis.

Stick with it!

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The cognitive dissonance is impressive.

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I think the top journalism schools put signed copies of “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky on dorm room pillows for freshmen during orientation.

They must have.

A couple of great admirers of Alinsky are Hillary and Obama!

If memory serves me right Hillary and Alinsky actually knew each other and were friends apparently while she was in college.

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Intentional*

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As noted in the Snopes transcript, Trump made it very clear who he was NOT referring to:

I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally.

Everything else is just twisting and confusing the facts in a vain attempt to fit a false narrative.

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No I get it… and if he had stopped there he would be in the right… but he couldn’t. He had to assume that there were some Non- Neo Nazi Non-White Supremacists at a neo Nazi White Supremacist rally that were there because they were concerned about a statue erected to a loser.

Those people did not exist at the Unite the Right Rally… that is the whole point. He couldn’t unequivoccally denounce Neo Nazi White Supremacists gathering where one of the them murdered a woman and injured a bunch of other people without going head first into the dumbest version of the culture war.

It was the easiest of tests that he failed.

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