Who will pay the costs if the thousands in the caravan are allowed on American soil?


#1

Who is going to pay to feed the thousands in the caravan if they are allowed to enter the United States?

Who is going to cloth the thousands in the caravan if they are allowed to enter the United States?

Who is going to pay to house the thousands in the caravan if they are allowed to enter the United States?

Who is going to pay to provide medical attention to the thousands in the caravan if they are allowed to enter the United States?

Who is going to pay to provide schooling for the children in the caravan if they are allowed to enter the United States?

Who is going to pay the maternity costs of females in the caravan who give birth if they are allowed to enter the United States?

Who is going to pay the cost to process the thousands in the caravan if they are allowed to enter the United States?

Who is going to pay the law enforcement costs to cover the thousands in the caravan if they are allowed to enter the United States?

Who is going to pay? Hard working citizens living in our nation’s inner cities who can barely meet their own economic needs. That’s who!

The fact is, American Citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax slaves to support the economic needs of those invading our borders. And if you don’t believe this let Bernadette Lancelin explain it to you in plain language:

JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.


#2

Why…the moral left will start a never ending Go-Fund-Me page. Just wait and see…


#3

Maybe you can answer a question I have about birthright citizenship. If Trump actually issues the EO he talked about a few weeks ago and it is upheld. How do I prove my citizenship? Just trying to get prepared… :smile:


#4
  1. Last caravan of several thousand people, something like 300 were admitted into the US legally. Most of the others stayed in Mexico or went home.

  2. Who will pay for illegals? Their employers.

  3. You are making a strong argument for a more efficient health care system.


#5

For the price that we are paying to have thousands of American soldiers sit at the border, we could give every man, woman, and child in that caravan tens of thousands of dollars.


#6

That’s it. The number of troops just got 10 ft taller.


#7

We’re already a nation of 325 million people. No way can this scare-a-van of MS-13 killers, Middle Eastern terrorists, and assorted aspiring welfare grifters and ethno-state diluters be absorbed. Plus, this massive number of people could break our budget and cause our deficit spending to go up.


#10

I never thought I’d live to see the day when so many living in the United States would actually encourage the borders of the United States to be invaded by the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled and criminal populations of other countries, while American Citizens suffer the devastating consequences of such an invasion.

Perhaps, many of those who participate in this activity are not American citizens, but are part of a paid Fifth Column movement determined to destroy America from within and change the United States into a communist/socialist iron fisted state like Cuba which they seem to idolize, especially its health-care delivery system.

JWK

There is no surer way to weaken, destroy and subjugate a prosperous and freedom loving people than by importing the world’s poverty stricken and criminal populations into their country and making the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such an invasion.


#11

How can we determine whether they are American citizens?


#12

The country currently finds itself under attack by poverty stricken, poorly educated, and low skilled elements of conservative America. They also couple that with the utter lack of principles, morality, and critical thinking skills that ended up with them foisting Donald Trump on the rest of us.

As I have said before, I would take a chance with the caravan folks any day of the week over the above group. At least there is still some chance for them to be positive contributors to society.


#13

Huh? Are you referring to those who support and defend abiding by the rule of law and defending our written Constitution? Who are you referring to as “conservative America”? EH?

JWK

They are not “liberal leaders”. They are conniving Marxists leaders who use the cloak of government force to keep themselves in power by stealing and then redistributing the wealth which wage earners, business and investors have worked to create


#14

They already did. It’s called federal income tax.


#15

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”


#16

Well, who would have thought you would quote a socialist?

Just for the record, Emma Lazarus, who wrote the words which appears on the Statute of Liberty was a well-known socialist, and the “poem” which she wrote was suggested to be used to raise funds to build the statue’s pedestal.

Additionally, immigrants coming to America who passed the statute on their way to Elis Island were not granted entry into the United States for a number of reasons. One reason to be rejected was the likelihood of becoming a ward of the state and a public burden, and on this ground many were refused entry!

Is it not reasonable for American Citizens to reject being made into tax slaves to support the economic needs of millions upon millions of foreigners who have entered our country illegally and legally?

JWK

If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon the federal government for its subsistence, we can then bribe them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Our Socialist Fifth Column open border democrat leaders’ long term strategy


#17

Let us not forget it was the Democrat Party Leadership which imposed “The Temporary Victory Tax” of 1943 which went beyond the limitations of the 16th Amendment and wrongly imposed an unconstitutional, un-apportioned, ”direct tax” upon working people’s earned wages.

Let us look at some history.

In 1913 the leadership of the progressive movement convinced working people to get behind the 16th Amendment. It was sold to the working person as a means to get those greedy corporations and wealthy people to pay their fair share in taxes. It was not intended to, nor sold as a way, to tax working people’s earned wages which were not taxed by the federal government at the time.

During the 16th Amendment debates we find Mr. HEFLIN agitating the working class people into supporting the amendment by saying “An income tax seeks to reach the unearned wealth of the country and to make it pay its share.” 44 Cong. Rec. 4420 (1909). Note the wording “unearned wealth“ as distinguished from earned wages.

And this was shortly after Mr. BARTLETT of Georgia had begun the class warfare attack by preaching to the working poor: As I see it, the fairest of all taxes is of this nature [a tax on gains, profits and unearned income], laid according to wealth, and its universal adoption would be a benign blessing to mankind. The door is shut against it, and the people must continue to groan beneath the burdens of tariff taxes and robbery under the guise of law.” 44 Cong. Rec. 4414 (1909).

But what these cunning evil con artists really had in mind was to create a tax allowing the expansion of the federal government’s manipulative iron fist over the economy which would eventually be used to squeeze the working people’s earned wages from their pockets in a more devastating manner than any tariff had ever done, and make them dependent upon government for their subsistence! But they cleverly waited for one generation to pass after the adoption of the 16th Amendment and a war to begin before completing their mission which Roosevelt was behind __ the imposition of the Temporary Victory Tax of 1942

Roosevelt’s class warfare tax expanded the “income tax” upon corporations and businesses to include a 5 percent temporary tax upon working people’s earned wages. And although the 16th Amendment was sold as a way to tax “unearned income”, the temporary tax on working people’s earned wages was sold as a patriotic necessity in the war effort. But somehow Roosevelt’s class warfare tax, which now robs the bread which poor working people have earned by the sweat of their brow, is still to this very day being collected, and its burden has constantly increased over the years, forcing millions upon millions of poor working people into a state of poverty and then dependency upon government for their subsistence, an outcome which is needed by the Democrat Party Leadership to maintain a captive financially dependent voting block!

JWK

If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon the federal government for its subsistence, we can then bribe them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Our Socialist Fifth Column open border democrat leaders’ long term strategy


#18

Nope. Not even close. How much does 20 years of public assistance cost?


#20

Who would have thought that the people of 133 years ago would allow a socialist’s poem to be placed on a monument representing freedom? And yet they did, but then again 133 years people of the mindset you seem to have hadn’t quite turned the phase socialist into some big scary boogieman.

Point was the words of the poem ring true even to this day. We offer humanitarian aid which includes assylum … because we can and it’s the right thing to do for first world countries.

Thankfully our government isn’t run by people whom are like minded to you. I pay taxes, I don’t get to directly decide what the government spends that money on, for example if it were up to me we wouldn’t be wasting over 100 million dollars on ONE I say that again ONE F-35 jet to say the least of our staggering military budget. But it’s not, and neither is this issue to you.


#22

Eat your peas, lib.


#24

We were hopping a good ‘‘christian’’ like yourself would pony-up their VISA card. :yum:


#25

Contrary to your way of thinking, I understand the difference between charitable giving, tax tyranny, and the fundamental purpose of a legitimate government.

“Under a just and equal Government, every individual is entitled to protection in the enjoyment of the whole product of his labor, except such portion of it as is necessary to enable Government to protect the rest; this is given only in consideration of the protection offered. In every bounty, exclusive right, or monopoly, Government violates the stipulation on her part; for, by such a regulation, the product of one man’s labor is transferred to the use and enjoyment of another. The exercise of such a right on the part of Government can be justified on no other principle, than that the whole product of the labor or every individual is the real property of Government, and may be distributed among the several parts of the community by government discretion; such a supposition would directly involve the idea, that every individual in the community is merely a slave and bondsman to Government, who, although he may labor, is not to expect protection in the product of his labor. An authority given to any Government to exercise such a principle, would lead to a complete system of tyranny.”

See Representative Giles, speaking before Congress February 3rd, 1792

In regard to your comment that you pay taxes, but “. . . don’t get to directly decide what the government spends that money on…” our federal Constitution lists, beneath Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1, what Congress may lay and collect taxes for. And there is nothing in that list allowing Congress to tax American citizens to finance the economic needs of illegal entrants, nor the thousands upon thousands of poverty stricken foreigners who are invading our borders and are unwilling to stand up to their own oppressive government which is plundering their nation’s wealth.

JWK

It is so sad that our nation’s moral compass, in general, has been corrupted to such a degree that there is confusion between the necessity for charitable giving as distinguished from tax tyranny!